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  • EdgeleyRob
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    • Nov 2010
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    Not so essential classics.

    Vivaldi's four seasons came up in a conversation I was having with a friend the other day.

    This got me thinking,I don't have a single recording of this work.
    Other so called warhorses or overdone classics that don't feature in my collection are -

    Bolero.
    Peer Gynt.
    Tchaikovsky ballets.
    Danse Macabre.

    What's missing from your cd collection ?.
  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #2
    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
    What's missing from your cd collection ?.
    DOG

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    • gurnemanz
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7391

      #3
      There is a thread going on the speed of the Ruslan and Ludmila Overture. I was about to chip in when I realised I didn't have recording of it and had nothing to say.

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      • Nick Armstrong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 26540

        #4
        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
        Peer Gynt.
        Tchaikovsky ballets.
        Danse Macabre.

        What's missing from your cd collection ?

        All the above.

        Anything from Bizet's 'Carmen'

        Copland 'Rodeo'

        Albinoni's (or rather that other Italian bloke's) 'Adagio'

        Mozart 'Eine kleine &c.'

        Tchaikovsky '1812' / 'March Slave'

        Liszt Piano concerto

        u.s.w.
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Pabmusic
          Full Member
          • May 2011
          • 5537

          #5
          Perhaps we need to have music that we avoid or dismiss. Trouble is, if I'm right, then these all become 'essential', don't they?

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          • rauschwerk
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1481

            #6
            Tchaikovsky ballets (used to have, but no longer).

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            • Roehre

              #7
              I do have the Tchaikovsky Ballets, Peer Gynt, Rodeo, but only in complete performances.
              I haven't got the suites drawn from these works.

              Not in my collection: Handel's Fireworks or Watermusic

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              • Thropplenoggin

                #8
                Plenty. My collection is limited to

                1 x Buxtehude (just discovering)
                Lots of Bach (adding to all the time)
                Lots of Beethoven (ditto)
                Lots of Mozart (ditto)
                All of Mahler except for the 10th (not for me, at present)
                A sprinkling of Vivaldi (Four Seasons, Gloria, Dixit Dominus - Alessandrini, Mingardo and Invernezzi - who could resist?!)

                I wonder whether the OP might be tempted by a copy of the 4 Seasons if he heard Il Giardino Armonico...I've never heard 'owt like it:

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                • Tony Halstead
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1717

                  #9
                  I don't understand this.
                  I thought the thread was all about NOT SO ESSENTIAL classics?

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                  • Pabmusic
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                    • May 2011
                    • 5537

                    #10
                    I have all this music - often in multiple performances. It's easy to dismiss music by reputation. I don't often listen to - say - 1812, but (here's the thing) I do sometimes. It's an enjoyable piece if you're in the mood.

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                    • Pabmusic
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                      • May 2011
                      • 5537

                      #11
                      Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
                      I don't understand this.
                      I thought the thread was all about NOT SO ESSENTIAL classics?
                      Yes. We've had several threads of 'music we don't like' before.

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                      • amateur51

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                        I have all this music - often in multiple performances. It's easy to dismiss music by reputation. I don't often listen to - say - 1812, but (here's the thing) I do sometimes. It's an enjoyable piece if you're in the mood.
                        Especially in the performance conducted by Golovanov with his own additions

                        To quote Raymond Tuttle from his review in Classical Net Review:

                        "The 1812 Overture, recorded in 1948, is party material, and I don't mean Communist party! Golovanov's controversial tempos and intensifications of Tchaikovsky's orchestration transform this hackneyed score into a wild beast. When the customary "God Save the Tsar" climax is replaced by a page or two of Glinka (mustn't upset Stalin!), you'll think the rug has been pulled out from beneath you. "

                        Just once in a while ...

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                        • Pabmusic
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                          • May 2011
                          • 5537

                          #13
                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          Especially in the performance conducted by Golovanov with his own additions

                          To quote Raymond Tuttle from his review in Classical Net Review:

                          "The 1812 Overture, recorded in 1948, is party material, and I don't mean Communist party! Golovanov's controversial tempos and intensifications of Tchaikovsky's orchestration transform this hackneyed score into a wild beast. When the customary "God Save the Tsar" climax is replaced by a page or two of Glinka (mustn't upset Stalin!), you'll think the rug has been pulled out from beneath you. "

                          Just once in a while ...

                          You know, Ams, I have it on a 45 rpm EP! I must hunt for it.

                          [Edit]

                          Here it is! ARC 21. I've overstamped it with my first cataloguing system - no. 6. I reckon that was about 1962.

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                          • amateur51

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                            You know, Ams, I have it on a 45 rpm EP! I must hunt for it.

                            [Edit]

                            Here it is! ARC 21. I've overstamped it with my first cataloguing system - no. 6. I reckon that was about 1962.
                            That's very impressive Pabs - a cataloguing system that works, manifestly! Theakstons Best

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                            • Pabmusic
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                              • May 2011
                              • 5537

                              #15
                              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                              That's very impressive Pabs - a cataloguing system that works, manifestly! Theakstons Best
                              Thank you. It's more because I have very few 45s left!

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