Should there be a Haydn Fest?

[french frank]

How about this idea for a music festival?

What's the angle for the press release?

[vinteuil]

What's the angle for the press release?

well, there was a lot of talk about the need for a new "third way". Perhaps Aeolium's excellent idea might be called something like, I don't know, "The Third Programme"...

[pastoralguy]

It was called the Year 2009, IIRC

2009!! I can't remember what there has been of 2011...

[aeolium]

What's the angle for the press release?

How about The Genius of Music?

[decantor]

No, no, please not a HaydnFest. Aka's Hoboken list at #3 illustrates the dangers. Anyway, Haydn was a good man, and deserves better.

So how about a Haydn celebration over a calendar year? A symphony every third day, and the rest squeezed in between. I haven't worked out the numbers precisely, but it could work - one piano sonata a week, plus three or four chamber pieces, with the major (longer) works at weekends. I'm sure Haydn is good for the system, but not in highly concentrated doses.

I suspect aeolium's proposal is only angling for normal service to be resumed as soon as possible.

[Panjandrum]

So how about a Haydn celebration over a calendar year? A symphony every third day, and the rest squeezed in between. I haven't worked out the numbers precisely, but it could work.

This was done in 2009. http://www.bbc.co.uk/composers/haydn/. Were you by any chance living on the moon?

[greenilex]

My friend from Kenya may be a Haydn Sikh (get my coat)

[rauschwerk]

So far, BBC Radio 3 has had a Beethoven, Bach, Tchaikovsky/Stravinsky and now a Mozart 'Fest'. None of these composers really need special pleading since they are already well established but I wonder if there would be any value to having a prolonged broadcast of Haydn's complete works.

(I admit that Stravinsky may be the odd man out of the listed composers but his music is well known to those who are interested).

Opinions please...

A great deal of Haydn's output has yet to be commercially recorded (and probably never will be). I can't see the BBC going to the trouble of making their own recordings of (say) the baryton trios! If they did, it would be like the 1970s when it seemed impossible to tune to R3 without hearing Stephen Preston puffing his way through the entire baroque flute repertory.

Your parenthetic statement about Stravinsky is very dispiriting because it serves as a rationale for the current situation in which, as suffolkcoastal has observed, most of the Stravinsky broadcast is his most popular music. When I was a teenager I cared rather little for Mozart but could not get enough of Bartok and Stravinsky. How did I get interested? Why, by listening to the radio. Are there now no similar teenagers whom R3 would like to recruit as listeners?

[Norfolk Born]

What about a British composers fest? Not total immersion but several hours a day in various programmes.And not all about Britten, RVW,Elgar etc but worthwhile works of the last 100 years that never get a look in.

Hi salymap! Just to prove that great minds think alike, have a look at Message #2 in the thread entitled 'Music other than Mozart's for 12 days'.

[Norfolk Born]

I Symphonies (1–108)
Ia Overtures (1–16)
II Divertimenti in 4 and more Parts (1–47)
III String Quartets (1–83b)
IV Divertimenti in 3 Parts (1–11)
V String Trios (1–21)
VI Various Duos (1–6)
VII Concertos for Various Instruments
VIII Marches (1–7)
IX Dances (1–29)
X Various Works for Baryton (1–12)
XI Trios for Baryton, Violin or Viola and Cello (1–126)
XII Duos with Baryton (1–25)
XIII Concertos for Baryton (1–3)
XIV Divertimenti with Piano (1–13)
XV Trios for Piano, Violin or Flute and Cello (1–40)
XVa Piano Duos
XVI Piano Sonatas (1–52)
XVII Piano Pieces (1–12)
XVIIa Piano 4 Hands (1–2)
XVIII Keyboard Concertos (1–11)
XIX Pieces for Mechanical Clock (Flötenuhr) (1–32)
XX Works about The Seven Last Words of Christ
XXa Stabat Mater
XXI Oratorios (1 · 2 · 3)
XXII Masses (1–14)
XXIII Other Sacred Works
XXIV Cantatas and Arias with Orchestra
XXV Songs with 2, 3, and 4 Parts
XXVI Songs and Cantatas with Piano
XXVII Canons (Sacred 1–10; Secular 1–47)
XXVIII Opera (1–13)
XXIX Marionette Operas (Singspiele)
XXX Incidental Music
XXXI Arrangement of Scottish (273) and Welsh (60) Folksongs



...er really?

Thank you for your Haydn Liszt

[Bryn]

A great deal of Haydn's output has yet to be commercially recorded (and probably never will be). I can't see the BBC going to the trouble of making their own recordings of (say) the baryton trios!

Why would they need to? They are all included on Brilliant Classics, and in good performances to boot:

http://www.brilliantclassics.com/release.aspx?id=FM02096001

That survey os also included in their Haydn Edition box:

http://www.brilliantclassics.com/release.aspx?id=FM02095251

Would that the big box also had all the string quartets, (3 CDs of the Buchberger survey had yet to be recorded at the time the big box was released).

[vinteuil]

That survey os also included in their Haydn Edition box:

http://www.brilliantclassics.com/release.aspx?id=FM02095251

Would that the big box also had all the string quartets, (3 CDs of the Buchberger survey had yet to be recorded at the time the big box was released).

Bryn - on the plastic wrapper round the big Haydn box it said words to the effect " 150 CDs Brilliant Box - Haydn edition: volume one" -
so perhaps they will give us another big box which wd complete the quartets - and the operas and sacred music, which I think are/is only partially represented in the first box?

[Bryn]

Bryn - on the plastic wrapper round the big Haydn box it said words to the effect " 150 CDs Brilliant Box - Haydn edition: volume one" -
so perhaps they will give us another big box which wd complete the quartets - and the operas and sacred music, which I think are/is only partially represented in the first box?

We can always hope, but a second recording of the complete operas (to add to the Dorati survey) would be quite an undertaking for Brilliant Classics.

[Gordon]

Welsh (60) Folksongs

I suppose that these would be by Haydn Bach

PS was the Sikh gent from Kenya Brahm[s]in?

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

....273 scottish folk songs innit

President Barack Obama is visiting a Glasgow hospital.
He enters a ward full of patients with no obvious sign of injury or illness, he greets one.

The patient replies:

Fair fa your honest sonsie face,
Great chieftain o the puddin race,
Aboon them a ye take yer place,
Painch, tripe or thairm,
As langs my airm.

Obama is confused, so he just grins and moves on to the next patient.

The next patient responds:

Some hae meat an canna eat,
And some wad eat that want it,
But we hae meat an we can eat,
So let the Lord be thankit.

Even more confused, and his grin now rictus-like, the President moves onto the next patient, who immediately begins to chant:

Wee sleekit, cowerin, timorous beasty,
O the panic in thy breasty,
Thou needna start awa sae hastie,
Wi bickering brattle

Now seriously troubled, Obama turns to the accompanying doctor and asks, 'Is this a psychiatric ward?'

.
'No,' replies the doctor, 'this is the serious Burns unit.'