Extremely annoying pieces of classical music

[marvin]

What exactly do you mean by "meaningless" ?

Well then, not worthy wasting my time listening to it again and again.

[MrGongGong]

Well then, not worthy wasting my time listening to it again and again.

That's not the same thing at all
all depends on what you think music is for

[Sydney Grew]

. . . Also included could be perhaps 50% of Shostakovich's output which is meaningless, trite nonsense as well.

Member Marvin is evidently a man of taste. But I would dispute the 50% - surely 99.99% is nearer the mark?

In fact I have just now noticed this thread, and I wonder whether the name "Monteverdi" has yet appeared in it? If not it certainly should have. Such primitive and tedious stuff his!

[marvin]

Member Marvin is evidently a man of taste. But I would dispute the 50% - surely 99.99% is nearer the mark?

In fact I have just now noticed this thread, and I wonder whether the name "Monteverdi" has yet appeared in it? If not it certainly should have. Such primitive and tedious stuff his!

Thanks but I tried to be reasonable with my part dislike of Shostakovich, who does have his good moments but otherwise is depressing, repetitive and dull and too full of angst to be enjoyable and to me that is what music is for, to answer the poster above.

[Nick Armstrong]

perhaps 50% of Shostakovich's output which is meaningless, trite nonsense as well

Member Marvin is evidently a man of taste. But I would dispute the 50% - surely 99.99% is nearer the mark?

Marvin may have a point, but Sydney, I would respectfully suggest that you, dear sir, are talking through your hat !

[Nick Armstrong]

Shostakovich... depressing, repetitive and dull and too full of angst to be enjoyable and to me that is what music is for, to answer the poster above.

You went and spoilt it marvin. Still, I trust you are happy with your André Rieu collection?

[MrGongGong]

interesting how

"I don't like it" = "meaningless"

[doversoul1]

I imagine what marvin means is ‘meaningless to me’ = 'I don’t like it'.

Wouldn’t you say much the same thing (may not publicly on these boards) about, say, Vivaldi or Telemann, MrGG?

[MrGongGong]

I imagine what marvin means is ‘meaningless to me’ = 'I don’t like it'.

Wouldn’t you say much the same thing (may not publicly on these boards) about, say, Vivaldi or Telemann, MrGG?

errr NO I wouldn't
My dislike for The Dream of Gerontius does not render it "meaningless" in some ways "disliking" something can give it more meaning

an artist friend once told me that he thought that "liking things can get in the way of appreciating them" which is sometimes the case

[doversoul1]

Mr GG

"disliking" something can give it more meaning

That’s quite true although not necessarily more but it could make you think.

But still, Vivaldi? (ignore this)

[marvin]

Enjoy yourselves arguing over my words in gives me pleasure and I like you but not a lot!

[MrGongGong]

Mr GG

That’s quite true although not necessarily more but it could make you think.

But still, Vivaldi? (ignore this)

Well its not Ligeti is it
but has its moments

[Ventilhorn]

Member Marvin is evidently a man of taste. But I would dispute the 50% - surely 99.99% is nearer the mark?

In fact I have just now noticed this thread, and I wonder whether the name "Monteverdi" has yet appeared in it? If not it certainly should have. Such primitive and tedious stuff his!

Tedious? Look at who's talking!

VH

[marthe]

Hi Marthe: back in the eighties, I used to visit New Haven, Conn for business and used to wake myself with the hotel clock radio tuned to a local public broadcasting station - of course I now don't remember its name. There was an agreeably voiced presenter who introduced classical music items from 7 am with minimal words. What I most remember though is that the programme started with recorded birdsong. Do such stations and programmes still exist in the States?

Ah Kernelbogey! You must have been listening to a show called "Morning Pro Musica" hosted by the inimitable Robert J. Lurtsema and broadcast by WGBH, the NPR station in Boston, Mass. Robert J. (as he was called) presented this show from 1970 until his death in the 1990s. He always began with birdsong and one of Respighi's "Ancient Airs and Dances." You could tell the day of the week by the air or dance being played. Lurtsema always put together an interesting playlist and often had live performance/interviews with well-known musicians during the last hour of his show. We listened to this every day either at home, in the car for the school run, or at work (when possible.) My children called this "mom music" because all the mothers who did the school run listened to Robert J. in the morning. When he died, WGBH reduced the amount of time in the morning devoted to classical programming. Now they devote 24 hours to NPR talking heads and have relegated music programming to less powerful spots on the FM band or to online, streamed programs. I can no longer listen to WGBH's music programs over-the-air so I make do with the commercial station that plays wall paper or the local university station that only has classical music in the morning M-F. I still have my WGBH 98.7 Morning Pro Musica coffee mug that I got for making a pledge to Robert J's show back in the 80s!

[kernelbogey]

Ah Kernelbogey! You must have been listening to a show called "Morning Pro Musica" hosted by the inimitable Robert J. Lurtsema and broadcast by WGBH, the NPR station in Boston, Mass. [....]

Dear Marthe, thank you very much for your post, which I found quite moving. My visits to NH were a mixed pleasure and I was soothed by Morning Pro Musica. I now recall the Respighi too. You have closed a circle for me with this information. I like the idea of 'mom music'. What a shame it was not replaced.

Kind regards, kb