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  • eighthobstruction
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6438

    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    Eh? Who's Legeti, and what is the relevance of the Youtube item linked to? I should add that I have not yet caught up with today's CotW.
    ....The presenters were commenting that this was inspiration for : Musica Ricercata....Cotw 2/5....( Ah yes my dysx - Ligeti [couldn't see the mistake even for 5min looking at it])

    ....And I wikied it ....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricerc...dentie#Details
    bong ching

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
      ....The presenters were commenting that this was inspiration for : Musica Ricercata....Cotw 2/5....( Ah yes my dysx - Ligeti [couldn't see the mistake even for 5min looking at it])

      ....And I wikied it ....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricerc...dentie#Details
      Thanks. Not as bad as a short series of FB messages I sent someone last week while in the throws of a retinal-turned-classic migraine. I misspelled Dusapin twice, in different ways, the second of which was supposed to be a correction of the first.

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      • seabright
        Full Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 625

        I don't recall Stokowski's orchestration of the Toccata and Fugue in D minor popping up in the 'Bach-before-7' spot but there are some splendid performances of it on YouTube by British conductors, including ...

        Martyn Brabbins / BBC Philharmonic (1996) ...

        Leopold Stokowski's arrangement of the Toccata and Fugue in D minor is the most played orchestration of any of Bach's organ works, thanks largely due to its ...



        Sir Andrew Davis / BBC Symphony (2001)

        In 1951, the opening of the Royal Festival Hall during the "Festival of Britain" year was marked by a series of concerts, the first of which was given by the...



        Raymond Leppard / Indianapolis Symphony (1994) ...

        Leopold Stokowski's transcription of the Toccata and Fugue in D minor is the most performed orchestration of any of Bach's organ works, doubtless due to its ...

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        • smittims
          Full Member
          • Aug 2022
          • 4148

          I was incredulous on hearing Henry Wood's diary entry after seeing 'Fantasia' . He said he was pleased to hear Stokowski using his (Wood's) orchestration of BWV565, which he had made under the pseudonym 'Klenovski' (the name of an actual composer) . The version used in the film was of course Stokowski's very different-sounding orchestration. How could Wood have thought it was his ? One answer lay in a famous photo of Wood at his desk, with, facing him only inches away, a life-size portrait of himself .

          I don't disparage Wood as a conductor, but there are spots on the sun , after all.

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          • seabright
            Full Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 625

            Originally posted by smittims View Post
            I was incredulous on hearing Henry Wood's diary entry after seeing 'Fantasia' . He said he was pleased to hear Stokowski using his (Wood's) orchestration of BWV565, which he had made under the pseudonym 'Klenovski' (the name of an actual composer) . The version used in the film was of course Stokowski's very different-sounding orchestration. How could Wood have thought it was his ? One answer lay in a famous photo of Wood at his desk, with, facing him only inches away, a life-size portrait of himself .

            I don't disparage Wood as a conductor, but there are spots on the sun , after all.
            As you say, the Wood arrangement couldn't be more different to Stokowski's, not least because he brought the organ in plus lots of percussion. Andrew Davis included it as tribute to Wood in the Last Night Prom of 1994 and quite spectacular it is ...

            Sir Henry Wood, founder of the London Promenade Concerts in 1895, was also an arranger as well as a conductor. He was less prolific than Leopold Stokowski in...

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            • seabright
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              • Jan 2013
              • 625

              I previously suggested Bach-Stokowski as played by three British conductors and as a follow-up, here's Bach as orchestrated by three English composers. The Bach-Elgar Fantasy and Fugue gets a splendid Proms performance by Andrew Davis and the BBCSO on YouTube but I thought it might be interesting to hear and see a Russian orchestra play it. It says "Svetlanov Orchestra" in the heading but we know it better as the USSR State Symphony Orchestra, here conducted by the baton-less Andrey Rubtsov ...

              Бах-Элгар: Фантазия и фуга до минор. ГАСО Светланова / Андрей Рубцов


              Here's Vaughan Williams's arrangement for strings of Bach's 'Giant Fugue' with Leonard Slatkin and the BBCPO ...

              Ralph Vaughan Williams arranged Bach's "Giant" Fugue (otherwise known as the Chorale Prelude "Wir glauben all' an einen Gott") for strings. A former pupil of...


              Finally, Holst's 'Fugue a la Gigue' in its original wind band form, also from abroad, this time with the Conservatory Wind Symphony at the California State University ...

              The Bob Cole Conservatory of Music at California State University, Long Beach presents:The Bob Cole Conservatory Wind SymphonyJohn Alan Carnahan - ConductorS...


              Again, it would be nice to hear some of these arrangements in the Bach-before-7 slot for a change!

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18015

                I rather liked this YT video - https://youtu.be/GNG59JOmyJQ



                I did wonder about posting under the Electronics Music thread - but this isn't quite that.

                I also checked the availability of recorders like that - but most are still quite expensive. No guys with wheelbarrows round here.

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                • RichardB
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2021
                  • 2170

                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  I also checked the availability of recorders like that - but most are still quite expensive.
                  I used to have such a machine around 1990, but really, now that almost everyone has a laptop and can get DAW software for nothing, they are about as useful as horse drawn cart.

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by RichardB View Post
                    I used to have such a machine around 1990, but really, now that almost everyone has a laptop and can get DAW software for nothing, they are about as useful as horse drawn cart.
                    Not if one already has reel-to-recordings made on such a machine and wants to listen to or digitise them. Otherwise, indeed, museum pieces.

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                    • seabright
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                      • Jan 2013
                      • 625

                      When the 91-year-old Stokowski conducted the "Enigma Variations" for the last time in his life, in 1973 with the NPO at the RAH, the Daily Telegraph's music critic Martin Cooper declared that the performance of the work was "certainly the finest I have ever heard." 50 years later it has popped up on YouTube, where all such great performances of the past should of course be archived. See if you agree with M.C.! ...

                      Stokowski was a great champion of living composers right from the start of his conducting career and Elgar was no exception. In 1911, during his first conduc...

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                      • smittims
                        Full Member
                        • Aug 2022
                        • 4148

                        Thanks for that; I will investigate. I'm familiar with his Decca recording with the Czech Philharmonic.

                        I've often wondered if Elgar had anything to do with Stokowski's 1912 debut with the London Symphony Orchestra, and if he heard Stokowski conduct. EE was, briefly, their chief conductor at the time . Stokowski would certainly have heard Elgar conduct during his London years.

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                        • smittims
                          Full Member
                          • Aug 2022
                          • 4148

                          Goodness, what a performance! I'm most grateful to you for drawing it to my attention. It is indeed superb. I especially liked Stokowski's tempi, not too slow for the opening statement of the theme, or for Nimrod, as many are. And how the organ sings out in the coda. I'm sure Elgar would have been thrilled to hear that rendering.

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                          • seabright
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 625

                            The appearance of Tadaaki Otaka on the TV the other evening reminded me that nearly 30 years ago he popped up in a documentary looking back over the first 100 years of the Proms. Other conductors who were interviewed equally briefly included Barbirolli, Stokowski, Colin Davis and Andrew Davis, along with Boulez, Moura Lympany and Gwyneth Jones. Others who popped up included Edward Heath, Donald McCleod and three Proms directors - Drummond, Glock and Ponsonby. Archive material included Sargent conducting "Belshazzar's Feast," Britten conducting his "War Requiem" and Thomas Allen fainting in "Carmina Burana." That latter performance ought to have been issued on DVD! ...

                            On 10 August 1995, the 100th Anniversary of the Proms was marked by a concert in which Barry Wordsworth conducted the New Queen's Hall Orchestra with Howard ...



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                            • smittims
                              Full Member
                              • Aug 2022
                              • 4148

                              Thanks for that link, seabright. I remember that Wordsworth concert very well. It's good to have a 'Henry Wood' retrospective occasionally. Among other things it reminds us of how much the Proms have changed, not always for the better. A more recent Prom in this line was the late Bramwell Tovey's where he played several Wood orchestrations.

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                              • Dave2002
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 18015

                                This video about whether having any formal music training is "useful" is surprisingly worthwhile.

                                The conclusions which emerge are not what one might expect.



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