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  • Boilk
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    • Dec 2010
    • 976

    Through the looking Glass

    One young critic not afraid to put Philip Glass in his place

    Receiving its UK premiere 10 years after it was written, Philip Glass's Sixth Symphony was overlong, belligerent and devoid of new ideas, writes Kate Molleson


    Why aren't more critics unafraid to expose mediocre composers for what they are? Unbelievably, the Guardian has closed comments on this review less than 48 hours after it appeared.
  • teamsaint
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    • Nov 2010
    • 25210

    #2
    Just read that review.
    Well, as you say, she's not afraid to say it how she sees it.
    I hope the criticism was valid.I don't like the "Knock it and make yourself a name" school of criticism.

    No doubt, the views are well founded, though.
    Don't get Glass at all, as it goes.
    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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    • Roehre

      #3
      Originally posted by Boilk View Post
      One young critic not afraid to put Philip Glass in his place

      Receiving its UK premiere 10 years after it was written, Philip Glass's Sixth Symphony was overlong, belligerent and devoid of new ideas, writes Kate Molleson


      Why aren't more critics unafraid to expose mediocre composers for what they are? Unbelievably, the Guardian has closed comments on this review less than 48 hours after it appeared.
      I am afraid she's exposing brilliantly the emperor's new clothes.

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      • MrGongGong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #4
        Originally posted by Roehre View Post
        I am afraid she's exposing brilliantly the emperor's new clothes.
        Oh dear
        It's a crap review and probably not a great piece
        but the ENC argument is daft IMV

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        • Roehre

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          Oh dear
          It's a crap review and probably not a great piece
          but the ENC argument is daft IMV
          Why?

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          • MrGongGong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #6
            Originally posted by Roehre View Post
            Why?
            Because it's usually used by people who have the mistaken belief that music (and art) they don't like is some kind of con trick.

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            • Roehre

              #7
              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              Because it's usually used by people who have the mistaken belief that music (and art) they don't like is some kind of con trick.
              Thank you for the compliment.
              End of discussion.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37691

                #8
                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                Because it's usually used by people who have the mistaken belief that music (and art) they don't like is some kind of con trick.

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37691

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                  Thank you for the compliment.
                  End of discussion.
                  Is this a manifestation of a generation gap?

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30301

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    Because it's usually used by people who have the mistaken belief that music (and art) they don't like is some kind of con trick.
                    Of course, if that's only usually, what is it on the other occasions?
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Roehre

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      Is this a manifestation of a generation gap?
                      Of course
                      But why do YOU think that, S_A?

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37691

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                        Of course

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                        • MrGongGong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          #13
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Of course, if that's only usually, what is it on the other occasions?
                          I'm not come across one yet but will let you know when I do

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37691

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                            Of course
                            But why do YOU think that, S_A?
                            Aha! - you appended your message after I'd answered it, which is most unfair

                            But to answer your appendment, Roehr, I think there's a certain break-off between people who were brought up on the idea of an historical evolutionary continuum, such as me (well, self-brought up with an occasional bit of guidance, now aged 66), and those who can take on board many contradictions and evaluate them according to perceived intrinsic worth as not necessarily rooted in precedent, or even within idiom, but maybe validated by factors external to "purely musical" desiderata?

                            I find myself very much caught between these two these days, having maybe been helped by a twin love of jazz in all manifestations stylistic and historical, and classical music ditto.

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                            • Roehre

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              I find myself very much caught between these two these days.
                              That makes two of us (and yes, I deliberately DID wrong foot you )

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