Do you know 1000 pieces - really?

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  • Suffolkcoastal
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3290

    #16
    I've got around 10,000 different works in my collection and reckon I could identify the work in question in about 2,500 cases without too much difficulty after a couple of seconds of listening. Mind you there are a few better known works I admit to not knowing that well.

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    • JFLL
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      • Jan 2011
      • 780

      #17
      Of course, it all depends (as Professor Joad might have said) on the question 'what do you mean by "know"'? Dave has conveniently defined it as 'really remembering' a piece. But even that is problematic. There's a core group consisting of pieces of which you've only got to hear a few bars and you say, 'Oh, yes, X's string quintet in C major' (probably adding the op number if you're as nerdy as most of us here ), then there are the pieces which you know you know but might take a time to identify, then there are those which you're pretty sure you've heard but couldn't positively identify (in my case, many of Bach's cantatas, though I think I've heard them all at least once and dearly love them (all) when I do listen to them), then the rest (which themselves could be divided into sub-groups). Is this helpful? Probably not.

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      • 3rd Viennese School

        #18
        Just add up the opus numbers of Stockhausen and Maxwell Davies and you should reach 1000.

        3VS

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        • Martin

          #19
          I guess you could start here...



          And those are just the classical ones.

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          • Vile Consort
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            • Nov 2010
            • 696

            #20
            There are several ways one might "know" a piece.
            • the ability to identify it (e.g. it's Beethoven Piano Concerto No. 3 in E flat opus 73, first movement, second subject) - which in many cases one might be able to do from hearing less than a bar of the work.
            • knowing exactly how the piece goes without necessarily being able to identify it fully - and by "knowing how it goes" I mean everything down to the orchestration, harmony, dynamics, counterpoint, chord spacings, etc. so that you would notice if the piece were subtly altered.
            • being able to play the piece without the dots.
            • the ability to picture the score in one's mind's eye. I suppose that would be an addition to no. 2 above and possibly no. 3.


            I would have thought I could manage at least one of the above for around 1000 pieces. I am assisted here by counting all of Bach's organ works and most of Buxtehude's, which between them amount to more than 300 works!

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            • MaryGreen

              #21
              To know that these pieces exist is one thing, the completely another is to recognize them while listening. In such a case my amount will be very small about 200-300 I think…

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              • IRF

                #22
                My mp3 player tells me I have 1107 songs loaded on it, and when I play them with random "shuffle" mode on, I can almost always name what is playing within a few notes and can hum along with it.

                Now, granted, a short rock song is completely different from a lengthy classical work. But it shows that it is possible to "know" a large number of different pieces.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 29953

                  #23
                  Originally posted by MaryGreen View Post
                  To know that these pieces exist is one thing, the completely another is to recognize them while listening. In such a case my amount will be very small about 200-300 I think…
                  'Morning, MG - and welcome to the forum.

                  (Our first member, I think, from the Ukraine). I'm sure you're right - to listen to a work and never hear bits that you don't remember clearly from previous listening must reduce the number of pieces that you 'know - really' must reduce the number, for most people.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • John Wright
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 705

                    #24
                    Rather than adding up one's music collection, which some folks are doing here, I'm with FF and with the performer Pabmusic and the itunes-hoarder IRF - it should be pieces of music/tunes that one is FAMILIAR with.

                    And think about it, thousands of ClassicFM listeners are likely familiar with 350 pieces, their so-called MOST WANTED that get airings EVERY WEEK geez, over-familiarity for sure!!

                    My 'classical' familiarity might be just between 100-200 even though I have amassed a 500 vinyl and CD collection.

                    But jazz and 1930s dance tunes and light music, ah well, over the last 3 years and more I have digitally restored over 1000 sides of 78's for my podcasts, so yes I am well over the 1000
                    - - -

                    John W

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                    • Alie

                      #25
                      I have definitely heard even more than 1000 pieces, but I don't think I can name so many of them, even not talking about recognizing all of them. My number is about 200-250 I think.

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        #26
                        in my humble opinion [if it hasn't already been said], more useful/interesting/impressive than being able to identify individual works, is being able to identify the historic era / style / country that a work belongs to, even if you haven't heard it before.

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                        • Mary Chambers
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1963

                          #27
                          I haven't the faintest idea. How can one know? What is meant by 'knowing' a piece? (Oh, I see that has very sensibly been addressed.)

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