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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    #31
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    "Famous" to whom? The "Westminster Chimes" on a neighbour's doorbell is in 5/4: is the original?
    CONGRATULATIONS to ferneyhoughgeliebte. That's it

    And yes, it is in the "original" HIPP Westminster version.

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    • Don Petter

      #32
      Ah well, we're a Whittington house!

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      • gurnemanz
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        • Nov 2010
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        #33
        Like many people I would also name Brubeck's Take Five as "most famous".

        The only other example I could think of off the top of my head was a much more obscure example. It's a song by Brahms called Mädchenlied which no doubt only comes to mind because I have just got to know it for the first time on the marvellous Jessye Norman Brahms Lieder Twofer with Daniel Barenboim which I bought recently. My attention was drawn to the 5/4 time sig by Eric Sams in his book on Brahms Lieder. I found a lovely performance of this appealing little song on Youtube:
        Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
          • 37691

          #34
          Oh what an anticlimax!

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          • teamsaint
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            • Nov 2010
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            #35
            on the subject of slightly odd times, I think that both "Heart of Glass" by Blondie and The Stranglers "Golden Brown" have bars with an extra beat, or else are in some odd time signature. I have been too idle to actually work it out but I think in both cases its just the odd bar with an extra beat. Anyone know or care?

            (I think Golden Brown may be 3 bars of 3 followed by one of 4 or could that be the unwieldy and unpopular 13/4 ?!)
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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
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              #36
              "Golden Brown" does have the occasional bar of 4 and a harpsichord
              not sure that "Heart of Glass" has that ? will have a listen later
              but all this pales into insignificance compared to Beefheart (or Primus for that matter ) or Crimson

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              • teamsaint
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                • Nov 2010
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                #37
                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                "Golden Brown" does have the occasional bar of 4 and a harpsichord
                not sure that "Heart of Glass" has that ? will have a listen later
                but all this pales into insignificance compared to Beefheart (or Primus for that matter ) or Crimson
                well the odd thing about the two songs that I mentioned is that they are SO famous, and yet I have never seem this rhythmic interest mentioned elsewhere. (especially notable in a disco classic like HoG).

                As for Beefheart.....not even going there for rhythmic oddities in TMR..........that way madness lies !!
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • MrGongGong
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #38
                  Definitely not "Heart of Glass" though
                  having just had a wee listen

                  cracking stuff though ..............

                  embrace the madness

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                  • rubbernecker

                    #39
                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                    on the subject of slightly odd times, I think that both "Heart of Glass" by Blondie and The Stranglers "Golden Brown" have bars with an extra beat, or else are in some odd time signature. I have been too idle to actually work it out but I think in both cases its just the odd bar with an extra beat. Anyone know or care?

                    (I think Golden Brown may be 3 bars of 3 followed by one of 4 or could that be the unwieldy and unpopular 13/4 ?!)
                    Quite correct. I was going to mention this yesterday in the context of "What's the most famous piece in 7/4 or 7/8" but I thought it would be too arcane.

                    The bridge passages in Heart of Glass comprise an alternate 3/4 and 4/4 giving the effect of 7/8 which was quite novel for a disco-style song.

                    Joe has Gone Fishing from Peter Grimes is in 7/4.

                    The last movement of Shostakovitch's 2nd Piano Concerto contains 7/8 measures.

                    Dave Brubeck's Unsquare Dance is in 7/4

                    Those would be my top contenders for septuple time hall of fame.

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      "Golden Brown" does have the occasional bar of 4 and a harpsichord
                      not sure that "Heart of Glass" has that ? will have a listen later
                      but all this pales into insignificance compared to Beefheart (or Primus for that matter ) or Crimson
                      The instrumental bit in 21st Century Schizoid Man!

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                      • Dilbert

                        #41
                        Money by Pink Floyd starts in 7/4.

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                        • Pabmusic
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                          • May 2011
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by rubbernecker View Post
                          ...in the context of "What's the most famous piece in 7/4 or 7/8" ...Those would be my top contenders for septuple time hall of fame.
                          You've overlooked "O, my warriors!" from Elgar's Caractacus, which is in 7/4. And "Sensemaya" by Silvestre Revueltas, which is in 7/8.
                          Last edited by Pabmusic; 20-04-12, 23:39.

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                          • teamsaint
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                            Definitely not "Heart of Glass" though
                            having just had a wee listen

                            cracking stuff though ..............

                            embrace the madness
                            embracing the madness is one thing...there is always a time when Beefheart is just what the Doc ordered(!).........but figuring it all out is another matter.

                            still, at least i was right about HoG, well, a little bit anyway .
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                              You've overlooked "O, my warriors!" from Elgar's Caractacus, which is in 7/4. And "Sensemaya" by Silvestre Revueltas, which is in 7/8.
                              Ah! I was coming to that one.

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                              • rauschwerk
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1481

                                #45
                                Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                                Like many people I would also name Brubeck's Take Five as "most famous".
                                The composer was in fact Paul Desmond.

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