Applause

[cloughie]

You aint shed much light, have you cloughie!?

.

Where was it? and who were we?

My view, which others may challenge, is that clapping at movement ends other than finales, is wrong!

[Beef Oven]

Where was it? and who were we?

My view, which others may challenge, is that clapping at movement ends other than finales, is wrong!

Stay away from Jazz gigs then

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[cloughie]

Stay away from Jazz gigs then

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Different etiquette!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

My view, which others may challenge, is that clapping at movement ends other than finales, is wrong!

[Bryn]

Where was it? and who were we?

My view, which others may challenge, is that clapping at movement ends other than finales, is wrong!

Telll that to Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven et al

Not applaudiing between separate movements is a relatively recent fashion, and fashion, it is.

[MrGongGong]

My view, which others may challenge, is that clapping at movement ends other than finales, is wrong!

I was right !

I guess (as Bryn points out) the questions are then

Since when ?
Where ? everywhere ?
Who says ?


(and stay away from Opera, Indian Classical Music et al )

stick to Choral Evensong then ? (but you have to ask permission from sir first)

http://demotivators.despair.com/traditiondemotivator.jpg

[Mr Pee]

My view, which others may challenge, is that clapping at movement ends other than finales, is wrong!

I won't challenge that. I find it disruptive and distracting. Save it for the end.

[Frances_iom]

Stay away from Jazz gigs then

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but isn't that because Jazzers have very short memories - they even forget who is playing that night and have be to reminded at the end of each piece - how can they possibily remember the earlier sections of a piece longer than a couple of minutes!

[kernelbogey]

[...] it depends on the piece, some invite explosive applause eg end of Siegfried others eg Boheme, don't. In the concert hall its flying in the face of nature (for some of us) not to explode into shouting and applause after say the end of Mahler 5 or 7 ..... but not after Mahler 9.

With respect to you personally, gradus, the music does not 'invite' anything: it just is, being performed.

And to withhold 'shouting and applause', while possibly 'flying in the face of nature' for you and some others is perceived as considerate and civilised by yet others.

I think part of the problem here is that it is natural for us to feel excited - emotionally and physically - by certain endings, especially when performed with outstanding brilliance. It is 'natural' to release such excitement by making noise.

But being part of a civilised society - which the public performance of serious music helps to define - requires us in my view to restrain ourselves from offensive behaviour, just as most of us don't spit or urinate in the street.

[MrGongGong]

But being part of a civilised society - which the public performance of serious music helps to define -

Shades of Cyril Scott ? or even David Tame (Woo alert !)
I was tempted to quote Ghandi

What about the public performance of frivolous music ?
so Strauss (NOT THAT ONE ) is off then

[kernelbogey]

Shades of Cyril Scott ? or even David Tame (Woo alert !)
I was tempted to quote Ghandi

What about the public performance of frivolous music ?
so Strauss (NOT THAT ONE ) is off then

Appreciate the response, Mr GG - but too gnomic for me.

[Beef Oven]

but isn't that because Jazzers have very short memories - they even forget who is playing that night and have be to reminded at the end of each piece - how can they possibily remember the earlier sections of a piece longer than a couple of minutes!

This is a most ungracious, prejudiced, possibly discriminatory, uncaring, superiority complex inspired and self-satisfied comment that is probably true!

[Beef Oven]

This is a most ungracious, prejudiced, possibly discriminatory, uncaring, superiority complex inspired and self-satisfied comment that is probably true!

This has prompted me to spin Tony Williams, 'Life Time'. What an album, what a musician! I'm already clapping!!

[MrGongGong]

Appreciate the response, Mr GG - but too gnomic for me.

Ok, I have the kind of internet that lets me find out about things I don't know about ! (which I have recently come to realise isn't true of many people !)

so

http://www.cyrilscott.net/Writings.html

try this

http://www.adlibris.com/no/product.aspx?isbn=1594774870

or even

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Secret-Power-Music-Transformation/dp/0892810564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331292840&sr=8-1

[Beef Oven]

but isn't that because Jazzers have very short memories - they even forget who is playing that night and have be to reminded at the end of each piece - how can they possibily remember the earlier sections of a piece longer than a couple of minutes!

Now onto Chet Baker, White Blues. Frances_iom has sent me on a 'Jazz morning'! Just when I was going to address my Wagner withdrawal symptoms with Karajan's Ring Cycle [/QUOTE]