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  • teamsaint
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    • Nov 2010
    • 25225

    #46
    "Forget about you" by The Motors and the old "Grandstand" Theme.

    Ok, not classical really, or at all in fact, but a striking similarity nonetheless.
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    • Chris Newman
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 2100

      #47
      Grandstand reminds me of the gradual morphing of the big tune from Schumann's Symphony No 1 finale to the 1960s song "He's Football Crazy" with Rolf Harris and a few other covers. Then it got shaken around with strong hints nevertheless in two versions of theme tunes for "Match of the Day".

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      • Petrushka
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12309

        #48
        The very end of the slow movement of Mahler 6 has for years reminded me of a piece by Leroy Anderson called 'Forgotten Dreams'. It's so similar that it can't possibly be a coincidence can it?

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        • Norfolk Born

          #49
          The opening of Frank Bridge's 'The Sea' sounds, to my untrained ear, very similar to Charlie Chaplin's theme from 'Limelight'.

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          • cloughie
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            • Dec 2011
            • 22182

            #50
            Originally posted by Norfolk Born View Post
            The opening of Frank Bridge's 'The Sea' sounds, to my untrained ear, very similar to Charlie Chaplin's theme from 'Limelight'.
            Hearing Academic Festival Ov last week got me singing 'Catch a falling star' and Stravinsky's Fairy's Kiss always reminds me of 'Wooden Heart'.

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            • kernelbogey
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 5803

              #51
              Does anyone know a French pop song recorded pre-1999, which uses the first movement theme of the JS Bach G minor keyboard concerto? I heard this on a holiday in Greece some time in the nineties, and couldn't figure out what was familiar about it. Once I recognised it, it became a sort of brainworm - wanting to hear the pop song again.

              Obscure, or what? - I know. Put me out of my misery someone...

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              • Panjandrum

                #52
                Had to resurrect this thread upon hearing again Britten's Playful Pizzicato from his Simple Symphony and noting how much it owes a debt to the nursery rhyme, Pop Goes the Weasel.

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                • 3rd Viennese School

                  #53
                  Is there a book of tunes that composers are allowed to nick if they get stuck?


                  How about E D C A? ( in various keys)


                  Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto no.1 opening

                  Tchaikovsky Symphony no.3 mvt 1 2nd subject

                  Dvorak Symphony no.5 mvt 2

                  Beethoven Symphony no.9 mvt 2 end of trio

                  Mahler symphony no. 5 mvt 2 end

                  Mendlesohn Symphony no. 4 end (sort of- rearranged!)

                  Shostakovich Jazz Suite waltz

                  etc

                  etc

                  3VS
                  Last edited by Guest; 21-06-12, 12:55. Reason: I called "composers" people! Which they clearly are not.

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25225

                    #54
                    Think I have picked up on a striking similarity
                    "I would rather go Blind" (the tune for those specific words) and the opening theme from the Tchaikovsky Orchestral Suite no 3.
                    Anybody fancy verifying, please?
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37814

                      #55
                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      Think I have picked up on a striking similarity
                      "I would rather go Blind" (the tune for those specific words) and the opening theme from the Tchaikovsky Orchestral Suite no 3.
                      Anybody fancy verifying, please?
                      I don't know either teamy, but funnily enough I was thinking about this thread last night when Mendelssohn's Scottish Symphony was on TTN, and that final broad tune having strong resemblances to Here Comes The Galloping Major!

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25225

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        I don't know either teamy, but funnily enough I was thinking about this thread last night when Mendelssohn's Scottish Symphony was on TTN, and that final broad tune having strong resemblances to Here Comes The Galloping Major!
                        here are a couple of treats then, SA !both magic. and i was right about the similarity !

                        Charles, Olivieri, Munroe, Tchaikovsky, Orch, Suite, No3, part1, Slovenian, Philharmonic, Orchestra, Ljubljana


                        I need to check out the galloping major, clearly, not something I know !
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • Stanfordian
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9322

                          #57
                          I am always surprised, even though I shouldn't be, just how much one of the motifs (a brass laden outburst) from Vaughan Williams's Symphpny No. 2 'London' sounds like the cockney ditty 'Let's all go down the Strand - have a banana'.

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                          • Flay
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                            • Mar 2007
                            • 5795

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                            I am always surprised, even though I shouldn't be, just how much one of the motifs (a brass laden outburst) from Vaughan Williams's Symphpny No. 2 'London' sounds like the cockney ditty 'Let's all go down the Strand - have a banana'.
                            And the first movement ends with the question: Can you tap dance?
                            Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                            • Pabmusic
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                              • May 2011
                              • 5537

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                              I am always surprised, even though I shouldn't be, just how much one of the motifs (a brass laden outburst) from Vaughan Williams's Symphpny No. 2 'London' sounds like the cockney ditty 'Let's all go down the Strand - have a banana'.
                              Yes, it does. When RVW wrote the symphony in 1912-13, the music-hall song was only a few years old. It was by Harry Casting and C. W. Murphy, and was written in 1909.

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                              • Richard Tarleton

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                                Had to resurrect this thread upon hearing again Britten's Playful Pizzicato from his Simple Symphony and noting how much it owes a debt to the nursery rhyme, Pop Goes the Weasel.
                                According to this Britten used eight of his own themes composed in childhood - and in HC's biog Britten refers to Frank Bridge looking over some of his "Kid's pieces"...but what I chiefly remember from the Simple Symphony is "Boys and girls come out to play".

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