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  • antongould
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 8782

    Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
    I don't know if it's in the credits, but it was the Sinfonia of London, which was assembled for film work. Bruce Montgomery had worked with them many times. Apparently he threw a party for the orchestra at Pinewood and later told Douglas Gamley, "Wonderful evening. Can't remember a thing about it".
    Salymap is of course a great fan of Bruce Montgomery both with the Fen books and as a composer.

    Have any of his letters emerged Pabs? Reading about Larkin very little of BM's correspondence seems in the public domain.

    Have you read the Whittle biography?

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    • Hornspieler
      Late Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 1847

      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
      I don't know if it's in the credits, but it was the Sinfonia of London, which was assembled for film work. Bruce Montgomery had worked with them many times. Apparently he threw a party for the orchestra at Pinewood and later told Douglas Gamley, "Wonderful evening. Can't remember a thing about it".
      Sinfonia of London was indeed formed for the making of film music usually under the baton of Muir Matheson.

      The Horn section was usually run by John Burden, so would probably have included Mark Foster and Jimmy Dennis as well as Andy McGavin (well known at the time as the player who could allegedly reach as high as top Z!)

      The principal flautist might well have been Edward(?) Walker.

      I shall take a look at this clip tomorrow, but I suspect that many of the players would have been part of the failed "revolution" in March 1955 amongst the wind players against Ernie Fleishman, The LSO Chairman, and the conrol, by weight of numbers, by the string players, some of whom were long past their sell-by date..
      Those players who took part were seeking to prioritise the LSO as a Film Orchestra under the conductorship of Muir Matheson.

      The interesting fact is that Roger Lord, the oboist who led that revolution, was the one rebel who kept his place in the LSO.

      I shall report again tomorrow.

      HS
      Last edited by Hornspieler; 19-06-14, 20:23. Reason: further information

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      • Pianorak
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3127

        Sidney James and Benjamin Britten (apparently)

        My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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        • Mary Chambers
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1963

          Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
          Sidney James and Benjamin Britten (apparently)

          http://www.thoroughlygood.me/2013/02...s-it-too-soon/
          The perceived likeness between Sid James and Britten always upsets me slightly. There are some resemblances, but looks are much more than a face, and I don't think James was tall (-ish), long-legged and slender like Britten. Their personalities were SO different that it must have showed in their appearance to some degree - Sid James coarse and vulgar, Britten the complete opposite (though not above smutty jokes, I'm sure). It's hard to imagine two more different men. As for the difference in their voices.....

          They did both have remarkable ugly noses, though. Even I will admit that

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          • Pabmusic
            Full Member
            • May 2011
            • 5537

            Originally posted by antongould View Post
            Salymap is of course a great fan of Bruce Montgomery both with the Fen books and as a composer.

            Have any of his letters emerged Pabs? Reading about Larkin very little of BM's correspondence seems in the public domain.

            Have you read the Whittle biography?
            I didn't know that about Salymap. Yes - I have the Whittle.

            I went through a period in the 1980s when I was keen to investigate Bruce Montgomery and I had a (fairly minor) correspondence with Geoffery Bush, whose letters I still have and who was helpful in tracking down a couple of unpublished scores.

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            • antongould
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 8782

              Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
              I didn't know that about Salymap. Yes - I have the Whittle.

              I went through a period in the 1980s when I was keen to investigate Bruce Montgomery and I had a (fairly minor) correspondence with Geoffery Bush, whose letters I still have and who was helpful in tracking down a couple of unpublished scores.
              Would you recommend the Whittle?

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              • Pabmusic
                Full Member
                • May 2011
                • 5537

                Originally posted by antongould View Post
                Would you recommend the Whittle?
                Oh yes. The chap's done a very detailed job - I guess it's quite an effort to write authoritatively about both music and literature, but he succeeds. It's certainly fact-filled - rather more of a factual narrative rather than a discursive one - but it's not just lists of facts.

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                • antongould
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8782

                  Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                  Oh yes. The chap's done a very detailed job - I guess it's quite an effort to write authoritatively about both music and literature, but he succeeds. It's certainly fact-filled - rather more of a factual narrative rather than a discursive one - but it's not just lists of facts.
                  Cheers it's far from cheap!!!

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                  • Pabmusic
                    Full Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 5537

                    Originally posted by antongould View Post
                    Cheers it's far from cheap!!!
                    Only too true. Ashgate is always terribly extortionate.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                      Only too true. Ashgate is always terribly extortionate.
                      Sadly true.
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Hornspieler
                        Late Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1847

                        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                        Sinfonia of London was indeed formed for the making of film music usually under the baton of Muir Matheson.

                        The Horn section was usually run by John Burden, so would probably have included Mark Foster and Jimmy Dennis as well as Andy McGavin (well known at the time as the player who could allegedly reach as high as top Z!)

                        The principal flautist might well have been Edward(?) Walker.

                        I shall take a look at this clip tomorrow, but I suspect that many of the players would have been part of the failed "revolution" in March 1955 amongst the wind players against Ernie Fleishman, The LSO Chairman, and the conrol, by weight of numbers, by the string players, some of whom were long past their sell-by date..Those players who took part were seeking to prioritise the LSO as a Film Orchestra under the conductorship of Muir Matheson.

                        The interesting fact is that Roger Lord, the oboist who led that revolution, was the one rebel who kept his place in the LSO.

                        I shall report again tomorrow.

                        HS
                        I have taken these dates from the official LSO website, but I am pretty sure that the revolulion took place in 1953 or early 1954, because my friend and colleague in the RA Band, Denzil Floyd, who "bought his ticket" in 1954, joined the LSO as 2nd horn and at that time, Barry Tuckwell was the section principal. These things happened more than 60 years ago, whilst I was still cowering under the wrath and malevolance of Lt. Col. O W Geary MBE psm, Director of Music(sic) Royal Artillery Bands.

                        HS

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          Philip Arnold Heseltine



                          AND

                          Peter Warlock

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                          • Roehre

                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            Philip Arnold Heseltine



                            AND

                            Peter Warlock

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                            • Pabmusic
                              Full Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 5537

                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              Philip Arnold Heseltine



                              AND

                              Peter Warlock

                              Truly, truly remarkable likeness. Perhaps it's the Old Etonian Look that does it.

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                                Truly, truly remarkable likeness.
                                No; can't see it, myself.
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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