The five masterpieces that changed the course of musical history

[Serial_Apologist]

a friend of mine at university allocated keys (major and minor) to his ex-girlfriends.

In that instance, what would B flat refer to??

[french frank]

I can't settle on anything for C major, or any other minor keys.

Well, I'd always thought of C major as a bright sunshine yellow. You'd think as the keys repeat themselves that a scheme based on the spectrum would work, but the key colours seem to progress randomly.

(I hang my clothes up in the wardrobe in the order of the spectrum: white on the right, black on the left and in between, theoretically, R-O-Y-G-B-I-V. Except there is a preponderance of blue, grey and black. I'm wearing a red check shirt atm and that suggests A major.)

[MrGongGong]

Well, I'd always thought of C major as a bright sunshine yellow. You'd think as the keys repeat themselves that a scheme based on the spectrum would work, but the key colours seem to progress randomly.

(I hang my clothes up in the wardrobe in the order of the spectrum: white on the right, black on the left and in between, theoretically, R-O-Y-G-B-I-V. Except there is a preponderance of blue, grey and black. I'm wearing a red check shirt atm and that suggests A major.)

That explains a lot
I use a "floordrobe" ....... even though my son has Aspergers

[amateur51]

That explains a lot
I use a "floordrobe" ....... even though my son has Aspergers

Now I do like floordrobe

[french frank]

That explains a lot
I use a "floordrobe" ....... even though my son has Aspergers

Does it?

I have just noticed that the A major of my red check shirt corresponds with pabmusic's A major = red.

Spooky!

[Suffolkcoastal]

I think its time to start a new thread, as this one's gone completely off-topic since my last posting.

[MrGongGong]

I think its time to start a new thread, as this one's gone completely off-topic since my last posting.

I didn't realise you were the boss
sorry for the irrelevant comments

[french frank]

I think its time to start a new thread, as this one's gone completely off-topic since my last posting.

I'm sure it will get back on topic if anyone has anything they wish to say:

The five masterpieces that changed the course of musical history

I'm not actually persuaded that any individual piece changed the course of musical history. It may have influenced certain other composers, and that 'changes the course of musical history' in a way. But not necessarily in a long-lasting fundamental way. Not in a things will never be the same again way.

[Suffolkcoastal]

I didn't realise you were the boss
sorry for the irrelevant comments

I just thought it would be good to have a separate thread on colour in music, which could be an interesting topic.

I tried steering this thread back on topic with my reply to roehre. I'm actually partially in agreement with you ff in not been persuaded that any particular piece changed the course of musical history, at least not straightaway. The process is, as with most things, gradual. I find it more a combination of pieces by a particular composer that make the difference, or an aspect of a composers style that is really different that again impacts on those that follow.

[french frank]

I've no objection to the idea as the subject of a magazine article and I would pick Schoenberg as the single composer coming closest to having changed the course of musical history. But it's like duck weed, with time even the most momentous innovations become obsolete. Not like scientific discoveries where one can't imagine going back to an age without electricity. Or even computers.

[Auferstehen2]

As some fellow MBs will know, I’m a passionate Beethovenian.

I consider the Eroica not only the “greatest” symphony ever written (I know some people don’t like such rash statements, but there you go, I am Mediterranean after all and tend sometimes to be a little emotional and not very restrainedly British), but also one of the most colossal musical works penned by anyone.

To this day, I’m stunned by its scale and magnitude. As I am no musician of any description, but only now in my retirement, venturing on learning music theory (currently seriously struggling with the Basics of Harmony), it really is quite difficult for me to explain exactly why I believe the Eroica to be so great. I can only do so in a fairly vague, nebulous, vacuous, insipid and not particularly clever or persuasive sort of way.

So, given all that, could someone infinitely more intelligent than I am (but maybe not so good-looking) please tell me how, precisely how, did the Eroica change the course of musical history? There is no question in my mind that the Eroica changed Beethoven’s own methodology. If I understand the question correctly (and we haven’t yet received that particular BBC magazine out here yet), then I assume the question means that works that followed it, would have been written differently by those composers, had the Eroica not been written.

How, please?

Mario

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

a friend of mine at university allocated keys (major and minor) to his ex-girlfriends.

In that instance, what would B flat refer to??

I don't know, but I probably wouldn't have liked her myself. Dull and boring perhaps.

[MrGongGong]

Surely a DISCUSSION is precisely that ?
It's not a seminar you know
and often the "off topic" diversions that happen are most interesting
if you want tedious I suggest the lovely folk on the CE thread such great ambassadors for Christian tolerance and charirty

[Bryn]

Was this thread not 'off topic' from the start? The artcle was,, was it not, about five works by one composer, Debussy.

[MrGongGong]

Was this thread not 'off topic' from the start? The artcle was,, was it not, about five works by one composer, Debussy.

In which case .........

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