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  • Domeyhead
    • Nov 2024

    A new user writes..

    Hello, I have been in private despair at what feels like a dumbing down of Radio 3 in the last year. I thought I was alone when I quietly seethed at Sarah Morh Peach who seems to think we must "enhance our listening experience" by tweeting each other excitedly like a flock of starlings whenever we enjoy a piece of music, and at Rob Cowan who seems to have a kind of forelock tugging obsequiousness when talking about music that must surely make him favourite for the Henry Kelly award for overblown musical sycophancy. Even Petrock Trelawney now exorts me (reluctantly I hope)to let him know how much I enjoyed a piece in 140 characters or less of over excited drivel. Why? Does it matter to him or the rest of the nation what I think, or vice versa?
    For the last year I have felt like a carer watching helplessly as a much loved relative regresses into childhood, but relieved when I realised I was not alone. I became suspicious when every time I turned on at random I recognised the "familar bit" from a popular overture, and realised that instead of providing me an endlessly renewed banquet to sustain me through my life, Radio 3 has at some point decided to feed me sweets instead. I understand that many of the quality newspapers have also raged against this transmutation into a kind of sub Classic FM. I don't understand why a publicly funded broadcaster with a mission to provide the highest standards in what it does, chooses instead to copy commercial stations to increase listener ratings in a pointless exercise that I can only put down to the Controller's vanity. I apologise for the rant but I have kept this in for a year and just had to unburden it somewhere.
    Should I pick up my hat and leave again, or am I amongst friends?
  • amateur51

    #2
    Originally posted by Domeyhead View Post
    Hello, I have been in private despair at what feels like a dumbing down of Radio 3 in the last year. I thought I was alone when I quietly seethed at Sarah Morh Peach who seems to think we must "enhance our listening experience" by tweeting each other excitedly like a flock of starlings whenever we enjoy a piece of music, and at Rob Cowan who seems to have a kind of forelock tugging obsequiousness when talking about music that must surely make him favourite for the Henry Kelly award for overblown musical sycophancy. Even Petrock Trelawney now exorts me (reluctantly I hope)to let him know how much I enjoyed a piece in 140 characters or less of over excited drivel. Why? Does it matter to him or the rest of the nation what I think, or vice versa?
    For the last year I have felt like a carer watching helplessly as a much loved relative regresses into childhood, but relieved when I realised I was not alone. I became suspicious when every time I turned on at random I recognised the "familar bit" from a popular overture, and realised that instead of providing me an endlessly renewed banquet to sustain me through my life, Radio 3 has at some point decided to feed me sweets instead. I understand that many of the quality newspapers have also raged against this transmutation into a kind of sub Classic FM. I don't understand why a publicly funded broadcaster with a mission to provide the highest standards in what it does, chooses instead to copy commercial stations to increase listener ratings in a pointless exercise that I can only put down to the Controller's vanity. I apologise for the rant but I have kept this in for a year and just had to unburden it somewhere.
    Should I pick up my hat and leave again, or am I amongst friends?
    Welcome Domey! That was a splendid rant, and you will find other but similar expressions of despair on here. You are not alone - many people on here are in a similar state of grief and anger

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30301

      #3
      Hello Domeyhead

      I'll send you a PM (private message). Go to the top of the page and click on Notifications when it's showing red.

      (For the rest of the world, you know I'll be giving details of Friends of Radio 3. I'm not allowed, under the privacy terms of the forum to use anyone's email address, without express permission, for anything other than forum business).
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Norfolk Born

        #4
        Domeyhead - welcome to the Valley of Tears / Slough of Despond aka FoR3. (Actually, when we're not fulminating we have a lot of fun and also learn a lot from one another - arguably at least as much as we would from Radio 3 were it doing what it oughta! )

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        • gurnemanz
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7389

          #5
          Welcome to our midst and thank you for the update concerning Breakfast - dispiriting though your findings are. You have summarised why many of us here do not listen to it any more

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          • Pianorak
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3127

            #6
            Welcome Domeyhead - Switch on R3 now and you can hear the rarely played Ravel Bolero. Enjoy!
            My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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            • Domeyhead

              #7
              Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
              Welcome Domeyhead - Switch on R3 now and you can hear the rarely played Ravel Bolero. Enjoy!
              THat made me smile! With luck we'll get one of the Planets (ie Jupiter) before 5pm as well. Thank you to everyone who has made me feel welcome.

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              • DracoM
                Host
                • Mar 2007
                • 12973

                #8
                Welcome, and please read / join the Whither Radio3? thread.

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26538

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Domeyhead View Post
                  Hello....
                  Should I pick up my hat and leave again, or am I amongst friends?

                  Leave your hat exactly where it is!

                  Looking forward to hearing what floats your musical boats... and as Norfolk Born says, hope you can enjoy the exchanges of knowledge and witty ( well, usually witty) banter, as well as finding a sounding board for your feelings about R3



                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Anna

                    #10
                    Hello Domeyhead. R3 is not all gloom and doom, if you look at the latest contributions to the Saturday Classics thread you will find we were all totally thrilled at the last two programmes presented by Simon Heffer (with nary a plea to tweet or email) about British Music, and there are the wonderful Proms and the evening concerts. It's just the stuff in the mornings which, quite frankly, is nauseating and coma inducing BUT they tell us that'll pull in new listeners. I have an answer to that - but it is not repeatable.

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                    • Stanfordian
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9314

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Domeyhead View Post
                      Hello, I have been in private despair at what feels like a dumbing down of Radio 3 in the last year. I thought I was alone when I quietly seethed at Sarah Morh Peach who seems to think we must "enhance our listening experience" by tweeting each other excitedly like a flock of starlings whenever we enjoy a piece of music, and at Rob Cowan who seems to have a kind of forelock tugging obsequiousness when talking about music that must surely make him favourite for the Henry Kelly award for overblown musical sycophancy. Even Petrock Trelawney now exorts me (reluctantly I hope)to let him know how much I enjoyed a piece in 140 characters or less of over excited drivel. Why? Does it matter to him or the rest of the nation what I think, or vice versa?
                      For the last year I have felt like a carer watching helplessly as a much loved relative regresses into childhood, but relieved when I realised I was not alone. I became suspicious when every time I turned on at random I recognised the "familar bit" from a popular overture, and realised that instead of providing me an endlessly renewed banquet to sustain me through my life, Radio 3 has at some point decided to feed me sweets instead. I understand that many of the quality newspapers have also raged against this transmutation into a kind of sub Classic FM. I don't understand why a publicly funded broadcaster with a mission to provide the highest standards in what it does, chooses instead to copy commercial stations to increase listener ratings in a pointless exercise that I can only put down to the Controller's vanity. I apologise for the rant but I have kept this in for a year and just had to unburden it somewhere.
                      Should I pick up my hat and leave again, or am I amongst friends?
                      It seems to be a fact of life that whenever something is excellent someone will come along and knacker it up. Radio 3 programmes provided me with a comforting reliable excellence for many years before it has been taken over by management that want to broaden the base of the programme. Ok I realise that I cannot have everything that I want to suit my own personal taste. I’m not a great lover of jazz and world music but I put up with them even if they are programmed at a very poor time for me. What I cannot stand is cutting pieces of music down into more ‘manageable chunks’ and the daily flow of celebrities, that I’ve mainly not heard of, telling me why what their favourite piece of music is. I’m not interested in the slightest what illusionist Darren Brown or this weeks celeb the writer Jackie Kaye think about their essential classics.

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                      • Norfolk Born

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
                        Welcome Domeyhead - Switch on R3 now and you can hear the rarely played Ravel Bolero. Enjoy!
                        Damn - missed it!

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                        • Don Petter

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Norfolk Born View Post
                          Damn - missed it!
                          There'll be another one along shortly ...

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                          • Don Petter

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Domeyhead View Post
                            Thank you to everyone who has made me feel welcome.
                            Welcome, indeed! And don't worry, it's the rest of them out there who are going mad, not us.

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #15
                              Welcome Domeyhead!! We all sympathise with your feelings about the demise of Radio 3! I still find the Afternoon slot not to bad and sometoimes in the evening's 'Live Concert' to.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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