what is going on? i cant listen anymore to radio3. i just tried to check out hear and now. but christ i cant sit and listen to robert worby and sarah peachmore talking to me like i'm a schoolkid moron. and when did radio3 start with the highlights malarkey? i want to hear the whole piece not moronic whitterings from robert worby talking about the music. and they always only play highlights when they feature the music i find most interesting. fuckem. can i say that here? i doubt it.
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Well you seem to have got away with it! (Not that I'm complainingOriginally posted by highart View Post
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Welcome to the forum, highart, and to the general thread of the threads on this particular subject.
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Well, personally, I'd rather you didn't. And, call me an old stick in the mud, but I'd also appreciate some attempt at correct grammar and punctuation.Originally posted by highart View Post
Anyway, Happy Christmas. Let's try and save the invective until the season of goodwill has officially come to an end.....
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
Mark Twain.Comment
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Welcome, highart! (In some circles I doubt you'd even get away with calling yourself that
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[The House Rules say No Swearing, please, but no action is taken unless someone complains. On this occasion, since the point is now made, I shall disregard any complaint as people can't be too offended if they have to be prompted to complain!]
On the subject of Hear & Now, I decided at the last minute to respond to the Trust's "Delivering Quality First" consultation which closed on the 21st. Apart from pointing out that a more accurate title would have been 'Delivering Cuts First' since that was the point of the DG's report and Quality, if considered at all, could come no better than second, this on Hear & Now:
"Proposal: Less specially recorded contemporary music for Hear and Now
This seems very regrettable. What will replace it? Repeats are less welcome here where a major aim is to promote new work. The support for contemporary music is a vital part of Radio 3’s remit and the output is covered nowhere else. This proposal appears to be in line with the BBC’s thinking that the smaller the audience, the more expendable the programme. What replaces it? – more CDs?
Less specialism, more populist programmes, and overall the BBC becomes less distinctive and its public service remit is not fulfilled."
Perhaps the intention is for more discussion and less music?It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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At the close of last night's Hear & Now we were advised that, "as usual", full details of the music played would be available on the Radio 3 site. In fact, only the skimpiest of out of order listings of a few of the items heard are displayed on the Hear & Now schedule page. Perhaps they will get round to a more complete play list later in the week?Comment
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as pointed out many times, it is much cheaper to pay peanuts (tho in a couple of cases these appear to be goldplated) for inane wittering which as nobody seriously listens to it, can be repeated sounding just as hackneyed the following day when the same bit of music is repeated. Apart from today's EM (and that was a bit of a ragbag) it's CD only listening tho I'm sure I'm not the only listener fed up with the forced jollity + repeated carols etc. Even the Proms repeats seem to be the bottom of barrell leftovers (the Kennedy Bach on Boxing day was I recall mostly jazz/klesma after the first bit of Bach)Originally posted by french frank View PostComment
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Completely in agreement!Originally posted by highart View Post
However, sometimes there's no speech when it's needed. This morning, when doing my Christmas Day driving, I heard a complete abomination - a reworking of the sublime slow movement of Ravel's Piano Concerto. I was keen to hear the details (in order to avoid it for evermore!), but, when it ended, found it was a quiz. So I know nothing about the dreadful piece.
It did leave me trying to analyse why I objected so strongly to it: there are sublime pieces of Bach, for example, which are transcribed for all manner of instruments, with no problem as far as I'm concerned.
Did anyone else hear this ill-advised tampering with Ravel?Last edited by Guest; 25-12-11, 19:55.Comment
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vodka - i suffered this too - but i think i was there when he gave the info on the 'arranger' - i think Herbie Hancock? - but that was before quite a few glasses of vino, so i may be confused...Originally posted by VodkaDilc View PostComment
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I heard this and hated it very much. I also think it was by Herbie Hancock, but I wouldnt swear to it (only at it).
Interesting point about a comparison with Bach, who can take apparently any amount of arrangement. I'm not a musician and I've had a few drinks (hey, its Christmas Day and seven in the evening), but ...
... is it a simple difference in construction? Ravel was famously fastidious, one who presented his work perfectly finished. Bach, by comparison, was elemental, he didnt have time to polish, he had cantatas to write, children to conceive, wash, feed, students to teach and all that was before breakfast. Bach gave us his genius raw, Ravel gave us his exquisitely cooked. So you can do what you like with Bach, if you've got the nerve. But not with Ravel.
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It was indeed Herbie Hancock and as Rob Cowan has played it a number of times before over the years it would appear to be one of his personal favourites.Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
As we know from recent experiences with R3 - there's nothing like a bit of recycling.O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!Comment
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YesOriginally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
I thought to start with that it was just a pianist engaging in some personal improvised meandering on the theme of the slow movement (Thibaudet or Hamelin or Hough occasionally try that sort of thing) - vaguely interesting but inconsequential. But then when the orchestra came in, it turned into a major, premeditated, misguided attempt to 'improve' on Ravel and I turned off
I suspect it was track 13 from this: http://www.amazon.com/Gershwins-Worl...t_mus_ep_dpi_8
I did quite enjoy reading amazon client Dihelson Mendonca's review:
This CD is a Masterpiece! You can also get, the DVD. It's shocking Herbie's interpretation of "Concerto For Piano And Orchestra In G, 2nd Movement", it's so funny, that even underwater we could recognize it's Herbie Hancock playing. I'm thinking about those people who wrote a bad review of Chick Corea playing Mozart what they would write here about it.
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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I liked groovedaddy's review (0 out of 11 people found it helpful):Originally posted by Caliban View Post
"Being as how I have not yet heard this album, I can neither give it a good nor a bad rating.
Therefore...Three Stars."
Me? I think the same as groovedaddy ...It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Indeed, one of my favourite Mozart concerto recordings on modern instruments:Originally posted by Caliban View Post
I did quite enjoy reading amazon client Dihelson Mendonca's review:
I'm thinking about those people who wrote a bad review of Chick Corea playing Mozart what they would write here about it.
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