Schubert on 3

[Don Petter]

Thanks for this heads-up Ammy. I have appended my opinion in the interesting 'comments' section under Mr Service's item...

Nicely put, Caliban.

[Bryn]

Probably not, while the Administrator of this august forum doesn't appear to know what time it is

To misquote DNA, 'Time is an illusion. Breakfast time, doubly so'.

[Pabmusic]

Perhaps the choice of Schubert's Death and the Maiden music in Ariel Dorfman's play has an additional significance....

Interesting point...

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

yes well posted Caliban!

imv better than Schooby Dooby Doo

[aeolium]

No authority I can find suggests torture, which (strange as it may seem) would have been anachronistic for Metternich's Vienna.

Deutsch, quoted in Alfred Einstein's biography of Schubert, mentions that Schubert 'escaped with a black eye' though it's not clear if this was received during the arrest or in custody. Metternich's Vienna was a pretty oppressive place, so the latter would not have been surprising.

[Carmen]

Would be interesting to know what the listening figures are for this week of programming outrage. Can this be ascertained?

[Pabmusic]

Deutsch, quoted in Alfred Einstein's biography of Schubert, mentions that Schubert 'escaped with a black eye' though it's not clear if this was received during the arrest or in custody. Metternich's Vienna was a pretty oppressive place, so the latter would not have been surprising.

Yes, I completely agree. I can't imagine the young men were treated in any way that we could regard as 'civilised'.

[DracoM]

Would be interesting to know what the listening figures are for this week of programming outrage. Can this be ascertained?

I think you can safely bet that they will be 'very satisfying' and 'impressive'. In fact, the press releases have possibly already been written.

[Nick Armstrong]

Nicely put, Caliban.

Thanks Don and also calum... Annoyingly I see I left a stray "a" in my comment there, and it can't be edited Oh well, don't suppose a typo in the Grauniad needs to be much lamented

[kernelbogey]

Excellent post at the Graun, Caliban.

[Frances_iom]

I think you can safely bet that they will be 'very satisfying' and 'impressive'. In fact, the press releases have possibly already been written.

probably recycled from last two - the actual submissions like Wodger's emails are not published and we need take on trust.

[Karafan]

I had the misfortune to catch some of "Play Schubert for me" at the weekend. Sarah Mohr-Pietsch at one stage broke to 'interview' a "Schubert Virgin", some rather tiresome female presenter from radio 5 Live (apparently), who had been handed a pile of CDs sometime earlier and asked to report back her findings (why, I asked myself aloud, who the hell cares?). She then proceeded to relate, to Ms Mohr-Pietsch's apparent edification, how she'd put the music on and listened to it through a filter of bawling kids. Aural "wallpaper" was how she described it. Her most illuminating point to relate was that she had enjoyed the Gloria from a mass setting because it was sunny outside and she thought it was nice. Utter twaddle.

Mohr-Pietsch, in a vain attempt to draw something meaningful from this banal observation, then went on to advance "so I think we're beginning to realise there are actually two Schuberts, one a serious composer one has to listen to in our otherwise silent sitting rooms or the concert hall..." (the sentence thankfully trailed off at that point, though I suspect the intended conclusion was likely to have been 'and the one it is perfectly OK to listen to through a cacophony of screaming children, washing machines and general chatter'.) Risible stuff.

[Nick Armstrong]

I had the misfortune to catch some of "Play Schubert for me" at the weekend. Sarah Mohr-Pietsch at one stage broke to 'interview' a "Schubert Virgin", some rather tiresome female presenter from radio 5 Live (apparently), who had been handed a pile of CDs sometime earlier and asked to report back her findings (why, I asked myself aloud, who the hell cares?). She then proceeded to relate, to Ms Mohr-Pietsch's apparent edification, how she'd put the music on and listened to it through a filter of bawling kids. Aural "wallpaper" was how she described it. Her most illuminating point to relate was that she had enjoyed the Gloria from a mass setting because it was sunny outside and she thought it was nice. Utter twaddle.

Mohr-Pietsch, in a vain attempt to draw something meaningful from this banal observation, then went on to advance "so I think we're beginning to realise there are actually two Schuberts, one a serious composer one has to listen to in our otherwise silent sitting rooms or the concert hall..." (the sentence thankfully trailed off at that point, though I suspect the intended conclusion was likely to have been 'and the one it is perfectly OK to listen to through a cacophony of screaming children, washing machines and general chatter'.) Risible stuff.

Spot on, karafan... sadly!

[Frances_iom]

.. Risible stuff.

"those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first send mad" - Euripides.
which just about sums up the present R3 production team

[DracoM]

It's beyond even an Alan Partridge parody, isn't it? And they just don't get it at R3, do they?
The damage the inept packaging of this 'event' is doing to R3's reputation is saddening, let alone what it is doing to Schubert.