BaL 3.12.11 Brahms Clarinet Quintet (merged threads)

[aeolium]

Of earlier recordings I enjoy Thea King's performance with the Gabrieli Quartet, and de Peyer with the Melos Ensemble, but my all time favourite is still the old Vienna Octet version with Alfred Boskovsky.

I have those three recordings, but it's the Thea King version with the Gabrieli I tend to return to. Of other recordings, I'd be interested to hear the Sabine Meyer/ABQ performance and also Charles Neidich with the Juillard Quartet. Apparently there was to have been a HIPP recording with Antony Pay and Hausmusik but perhaps this project has been shelved: a shame as I very much enjoyed his recording of the Weber concertos with the OAE.

[BBMmk2]

The de Peyer is also available on an EMI Seraphim release on Amazon for £3.03 from a marketplace seller coupled with the Mozart quintet - look no further IMO .

That does look likea bargain!!!

[Dave2002]

I went looking for details of a version which I own - and is somewhere on my shelves I hope - which was by an Israeli clarinettist about 20 or so years ago. I didn't find the information, but I found another clarinettist - Sharon Kam, who has what sounds like a really lovely version with the Jerusalem Quartet - http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/...lbum_id=924580 That review also suggests Jon Manasse and the Tokyo quartet - but I've not heard that one - yet. Kam+Jerusalem is well recorded as far as I can tell and the performance is very good. A clarinettist to follow I think.

[Dave2002]

This is going to work out expensive! Here is a review of Jon Manasse's performance - http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/...lbum_id=813479

I'd say there are more mannerisms in this version, and the quartet use more obvious vibrato, and sometimes slide between notes. If you don't like that Kam's version might suit you better. There could, however, be room for both on the shelves. Trouble is, also, that once one goes looking for detail, some of the same issues are present in the Jerusalem Quartet's playing - there is still vibrato, and sliding between notes - though perhaps to a lesser extent. The clarinettists have similar tone, and some of the differences may be due to the recording techniques. Right now I've a preference for Kam's but repeated listening to both could change that. Manasse's disc is an SACD - I think Kam's is CD only.

This link has a whole bunch of other recordings - http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/w/3...B-minor-Op-115

[verismissimo]

... Apparently there was to have been a HIPP recording with Antony Pay and Hausmusik but perhaps this project has been shelved...

Anyone tried this one - London Haydn Quartet with Eric Hoeprich?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brahms-Mozart-London-Haydn-Quartet/dp/B000FDEDHI/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1415271523&sr=1-2&keywords=brahms+clarinet+quintet+London

SORRY: Missed Hedgehog's report on this.

[verismissimo]

... Jon Manasse's performance... I'd say there are more mannerisms in this version, and the quartet use more obvious vibrato, and sometimes slide between notes...

HIPP report: NO to the obvious vibrato. YES to the portamento!

[clive heath]

You can hear Reginald Kell's performance with the Busch Quartet here

http://www.cliveheathmusic.co.uk/transcriptions_13.php

[kea]

I think Fitzwilliam Quartet & Alan Hacker is pretty good. (You also get a very sensitive, delicate recording of Schubert's String Quintet to go with) There's a later one with the Fitzwilliams & Lesley Schatzberger on period instruments, but I haven't heard it. (BBC mag seems to have given it 5 stars though)

Hagen/Widmann is also rather good I think

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

my first version of this great work was by Keith Puddy with the Delme Quartet - a version i still treasure

Rob Cowan played Thea King and The Gabrielli Q for a request by me a year or so back and it was entrancing

the other version that is high in my affections is the Brahms and Mozart Quintets by David Schifrin with the Emerson Quartet on DG

[Tony Halstead]

I think Fitzwilliam Quartet & Alan Hacker is pretty good. (You also get a very sensitive, delicate recording of Schubert's String Quintet to go with) There's a later one with the Fitzwilliams & Lesley Schatzberger on period instruments, but I haven't heard it. (BBC mag seems to have given it 5 stars though)

Hagen/Widmann is also rather good I think

The Alan Hacker (sadly now late and lamented) and Lesley Schatzberger versions are my two favourites.

[vinteuil]

The Alan Hacker (sadly now late and lamented) and Lesley Schatzberger versions are my two favourites.

... thanks for this : duly ordered

[BBMmk2]

I have been listening to on Spotify, a try before you by, kind of thing. The one with The Jerusalem Quartet, sounds rather good, at this stage.

[johnb]

I've discovered that the 03/12/11 BAL of the Brahms Clarinet Quintet is available (as are other BALs) via the R3 Schedule. It is probably trimmed by a few minutes but worth listening to.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01w4rn6

It looks as though quite a lot of the BALs (perhaps all) are available back to sometime in 2010, something I hadn't realised until now.

If anyone is interested in accessing them, this is a link to a list (by year) of the BAL recommendations, which can be searched for a composer, etc:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/radio3/classical/cdreview/bal1213.pdf

The date shown in the above document can then be used on the following to navigate to the BAL Clip:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tmtz/broadcasts/2014/11

There are probably easier ways though!

[Edit] If people find this useful perhaps the information could be put into a sticky post in a 'reference' section of the forum.

[aeolium]

Quite a lot of the recordings mentioned on this thread (and some others) are available to listen to via the Naxos Online Music Library link in the Reference Library part of the forum (link courtesy of teamsaint/AmpH):

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?7561-Naxos-Online-Music-Library

[Barbirollians]

my first version of this great work was by Keith Puddy with the Delme Quartet - a version i still treasure

Rob Cowan played Thea King and The Gabrielli Q for a request by me a year or so back and it was entrancing

the other version that is high in my affections is the Brahms and Mozart Quintets by David Schifrin with the Emerson Quartet on DG

Great to be reminded of that Puddy version ( my first too )coupled with an excellent account of the American Quartet - my cassette went haywire some time since so good to see it for pennies at Zoverstocks