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John Ogdon: Views?
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Originally posted by Op. XXXIX View PostThat's rather jarring in light of my earlier post. One thing that really impressed me about that book was its mention of all the 'off the path' repertoire Ogdon played.
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Roehre
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostNo offence to you, of course, but the book is what it is...
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Originally posted by Op. XXXIX View PostNo offence taken, and thanks for the long post which I found very informative as did Roehre. I do not have the background you do, but I did find it interesting that the author of the book got very defensive at several points. That did raise a red flag or two, and I wonder if someday there will be a major bio of Ogdon. (Or would there not be sufficient interest to market it?)
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I haven't read the book but vividly remember the BBC film, which I thought was extremely moving. Although the film had the same title as the book, the film sometimes portrayed one of the co-authors of that book in a less that flattering light.
It still makes me feel uncomfortable that, in JO's later years, the Steinway given to JO by JP Getty was elegantly situated in BL's drawing room while JO used an upright in his basement flat.
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Originally posted by johnb View PostI haven't read the book but vividly remember the BBC film, which I thought was extremely moving. Although the film had the same title as the book, the film sometimes portrayed one of the co-authors of that book in a less that flattering light.
It still makes me feel uncomfortable that, in JO's later years, the Steinway given to JO by JP Getty was elegantly situated in BL's drawing room while JO used an upright in his basement flat.
Well, that's as much as feel that I can write here about that.
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Originally posted by salymap View PostIremember how he made 'Islamay' seem easy and his recording of the Busoni Piano Concerto. I saw him once in Oxford Street, unmistakable with his jutting black beard, clearing a path through the crowds with arms outstretched. A flawed genius, in some ways.
I also heard/saw him play the Bartok sonata for two pianos and percussion with Brenda Lucas.
He sometimes used to read the score - not a popular practice these days. Sometimes he had someone turn over the pages for him, and I heard that the page turners were often surprised to discover that he wanted the pages turned several pages ahead of what he was actually playing. His sight reading was, allegedly, phenomenal.
A remarkable pianist.
PS: Just noted the postings by ahinton. Are my observations about page turners correct? I only heard these from others.
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Originally posted by Dave2002 View PostI saw him perform the Busoni Piano Concerto, and also, I think, a concerto by George Lloyd.
I also heard/saw him play the Bartok sonata for two pianos and percussion with Brenda Lucas.
He sometimes used to read the score - not a popular practice these days. Sometimes he had someone turn over the pages for him, and I heard that the page turners were often surprised to discover that he wanted the pages turned several pages ahead of what he was actually playing. His sight reading was, allegedly, phenomenal.
A remarkable pianist.
PS: Just noted the postings by ahinton. Are my observations about page turners correct? I only heard these from others.
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clive heath
A forum member was kind enough to point out on the "Sir Charles Groves" thread on the "Performance" forum that you can find on my site
" a taped recording of Messiaen, Turangalila Symphony: BBC Symphony Orchestra conducted by Charles Groves with John Ogdon (Piano) and Jeanne Loriod (Ondes Martenot). Broadcast from the Albert Hall, Wednesday 6 August 1969"
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Panjandrum
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I believe Clive's contributions have been much appreciated to date. As there is no commercial aspect, merely a shared interest in the music, I would not dismiss this as spam. I recommend an investigation of the music archive which he is offering on his website. As he says, it is for personal and educational use only.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostI believe Clive's contributions have been much appreciated to date. As there is no commercial aspect, merely a shared interest in the music, I would not dismiss this as spam. I recommend an investigation of the music archive which he is offering on his website. As he says, it is for personal and educational use only.
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I do have Ogdon's 'Fantasy Waltzes' composed by William Alwyn on Chandos, not sure if it is still available, but he recorded very little compared with other pianists of his generation. But certainly a great artist, if plagued with those demons which often afflict those who are gifted with genius...
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