Calling all Fauré fans....

[Dave2002]

vinteuil

I guess I quite enjoyed this book - http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Logi.../dp/0915144506

I assume that Moore/Russell text/mp3 is totally spoof. Very odd though. Took me some while to find out what may be the issue - "bare plurals" - and even allowing for a Cambridge audience I doubt that many of those present really understood that. Probably done with Monty Python actions as well. Could have been funny for some at the time, but perhaps not many.

[Nick Armstrong]

"We have in the studio Bertrand Russell, who talked to us in the series “Sense Perception and Nonsense: Number 7, Is this a dagger I see before me?” - Bertrand Russell...."

Bertrand Russell: "One of the advantages of living in Great Court, Trinity, I seem to recall, was the fact that one could pop across at any time of the day or night and trap the then young G.E. Moore into a logical falsehood by means of a cunning semantic subterfuge. I recall one occasion with particular vividness. I had popped across and had knocked upon his door. "Come in", he said. I decided to wait awhile in order to test the validity of his proposition. "Come in", he said once again. "Very well", I replied, "if that is in fact truly what you wish".

I opened the door accordingly and went in, and there was Moore seated by the fire with a basket upon his knees. "Moore", I said, "do you have any apples in that basket?" "No", he replied, and smiled seraphically, as was his wont. I decided to try a different logical tack. "Moore", I said, "do you then have some apples in that basket?" "No", he replied, leaving me in a logical cleft stick from which I had but one way out. "Moore", I said, "do you then have apples in that basket?" "Yes", he replied. And from that day forth, we remained the very closest of friends.' "

From Jonathan Miller [St John's], 'Portrait from Memory', on the LP Beyond the Fringe (1962)

All very drole but it highlights why although various research avenues were open, I hastened (after three marvellous years) to leave that institution and join the real world...

[vinteuil]

vinteuil

I guess I quite enjoyed this book - http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Logi.../dp/0915144506

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Ah, Lemmon!! - that brings back (mainly happy) memories... what I liked was that pains-takingly he led you from the obvious ("if P then Q, not Q, then not P") in what seemed to be a faultless progression - until in the last couple of pages you had been taken with no apparent logical gaps to Russell's Paradox (sets not members of themselves, etc) - viz you had paid your £2-19-6d and several weeks serious thinking only to be drawn into a logical impossibility...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_paradox

[Nick Armstrong]

calispera sas -

case A: there are 4 CDs
case B: there are 5 CDs

question - "Are there 4 or 5 CDs?"

answer - "Yes!" - obvi, as the yoof say

Caliban

What most "normal" English speakers expect is:

If there are 4 CDs, answer 4;
If there are 5 CDs, answer 5.

....

.... The scene took place in Switzerland, allegedly.

Vin-de-table and Dave, I have shamefully omitted to thank you for your explanations last week. Possibly because it took me the weekend to recover from Dave's



I remember a sharp-witted teacher pulled the Sellers line on me on my first day at big school... I was puffing and panting not to be late for a band rehearsal and passed him and asked "Scuse me sir, do you have the time?" - he looked at his watch, smiled a smug smile and just said "Yes, I do" before disappearing round a corner.

All I know for certain is that I have CDs next to my keyboard. Four to be precise. In a box with "FAURE COMPLETE PIANO WORKS Jean-Philippe Collard" marked on the cover.

How'd ya like THEM apples?

[LeMartinPecheur]

All I know for certain is that I have CDs next to my keyboard. Four to be precise. In a box with "FAURE COMPLETE PIANO WORKS Jean-Philippe Collard" marked on the cover.

I was just about to suggest that Caliban's answer doesn't settle anything because the 5th CD might be in his CD player

Then I took a look at my own shelves and there was the Collard box, clearly marked "5 CDs"! Explanation: my box is EMI France Faure "Oeuvres pour piano (plus) Melodies". The 5th CD is von Stade/ Rigutto in misc songs.

Might this be the root of all the confusion??

[vinteuil]

Might this be the root of all the confusion??

Martin le Pecheur - no : because the "4 or 5" question related to the new box of chamber works, not the Collard piano works (see #22 above.)

[LeMartinPecheur]

Martin le Pecheur - no : because the "4 or 5" question related to the new box of chamber works, not the Collard piano works (see #22 above.)

[Pianorak]

I also have Collard's very enjoyable EMI 4CD piano set on Brilliant

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Faure-Piano-.../dp/B003AO1L0Q

I ordered the Brilliant 4CD piano set having been taken in by "the complete . . ." only to find that my EMI Classics CDs (2 CDs in two boxes complete with FNAC label and priced at 129 F each) are the complete Faure, but aren't marked "the complete...". However, the Brilliant box will make a nice present for someone.

[Nick Armstrong]

caliboo - vade retro, satanas! - I already have the EMI 5 CD set (Barbizet, Collard, François, Heidsieck, Rigutto, Dumay, Ferras, Lodéon, Tortelier, Debost, Qr Bernède, Qr Parrenin) - but how can I resist this temptation? grr. thank you

Just a reminder for Saturday morning:

10.35 to 11.15 AM

Fauré: Complete Chamber Music for Strings & Piano
...
Renaud Capuçon (violin), Gautier Capuçon (cello), Nicholas Angelich (piano), Gérard Caussé (viola), Michel Dalberto (piano), Quatuor Ébène
Virgin Classics 0708752 (5CDs, budget price)


Fauré: Musique de chamber (sic )

Pierre Barbizet, Jean-Phillipe Collard, Samson Francois, Eric Heidsieck, Bruno Rigutto (piano), Augustin Dumay, Christian Ferras (violins) Frederic Lodeon, Paul Tortellier (cello), Nichel Debost (flute), Quatuor Bernede, Quatuor Parrenin
EMI Classics 6483322 (5 CDs, budget price)


Looks from the latter as if Mr McG is going to be doing a spot of comparison, n'est-ce pas vin de pays

[Nick Armstrong]

Oh dear....

Right from the beginning of the first extract I was thinking that the recording of the piano was very odd and boxy, different it seemed from the sound for the strings - as if the latter were playing in the room and the piano in a wooden-panelled ante-room. And it wasn't just on the radio, it seems, as AMcG commented on precisely that... It seemed less intrusive in the quartets and quintets (great performances, it sounded to me) but... but.. but..

My copy hasn't arrived yet - anyone else's?

I'm a bit picky about the recording of pianos Hope I don't have to send it back to amazon...

[vinteuil]

o calipygous one -

well, my copy plumped on to the coconut mattin' three minutes after the CD Review programme...

I was less exercised than Maître Mc G and yrsel' as to the 'boxy' sound of the recording : I very much liked the performances.

Am still (also) tempted by the other cheapo - the Nash ensemble usw on Brilliant....

[Nick Armstrong]

o calipygous one -

well, my copy plumped on to the coconut mattin' three minutes after the CD Review programme...

I was less exercised than Maître Mc G and yrsel' as to the 'boxy' sound of the recording : I very much liked the performances.

Am still (also) tempted by the other cheapo - the Nash ensemble usw on Brilliant....

Encouraging, vin santo ! Thanks! V glad you are enjoying it.

You do have the Domus quartets and quintets on Hyperion, don't you?

[Nick Armstrong]

Resurrecting this old thread as the title seems appropriate...

There was a wonderful performance of Fauré’s Second Piano Quintet during a lunchtime concert last week (I’ve kept meaning to flag it):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000bfn9

I had the luck/presence of mind to be able to record just the Quintet on the bedroom DAB Radio, and the first movement in particular has been getting a lot of plays at various times of the day and night since.

The performance is pretty nigh-on perfect imvvho

What a piece

[jayne lee wilson]

My last Fauré adventure was this marvel...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086PNWMW3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Remarkable SACD sound - seeming tailored to the music itself, but MDG don't offer much on Qobuz I'm afraid... I've tried quite a few similar couplings, but this would be my go-to now, not only because I'm an MDG-audiophile-fan.

Did you follow Ivor Bolton's The Secret Fauré on Sony? Lovely sound, very fresh readings.....

https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/search?q=the+secret+faure&i=boutique

[BBMmk2]

Great bargains to be had here, Nick! Thank you!