Is it time to "cancel" Elgar ?

[oddoneout]

I've just found out that apparently P&C No 1 is a traditional part of graduation ceremonies in the USA, following Elgar's award of Honorary Doctorate of Music from Yale.
Hearing Walton's Crown Imperial this morning made me wonder if that should be consigned to oblivion as well, if nothing else the title is more problematic than P&C...

[Pulcinella]

I've just found out that apparently P&C No 1 is a traditional part of graduation ceremonies in the USA, following Elgar's award of Honorary Doctorate of Music from Yale.
Hearing Walton's Crown Imperial this morning made me wonder if that should be consigned to oblivion as well, if nothing else the title is more problematic than P&C...

It will be interesting to discover what music Charles chooses for his coronation.

[Master Jacques]

Hearing Walton's Crown Imperial this morning made me wonder if that should be consigned to oblivion as well, if nothing else the title is more problematic than P&C...

Not problematic really, as his 1937 Coronation march utilizes a quote from Shakespeare's Henry V, from a line which was in fact altered in Olivier's Henry V (1944) to read "the orb and sceptre, crown imperial" - thus incidentally providing the title for Walton's second Coronation march, from 1953!

Only the crudest presentism could slur Shakespeare's line from his English history with suspicion, pre-dating as it does any nasty goings on in Eastern climes.

[Master Jacques]

Walton may be safe. But I do worry about the future for Parry's Blest Pair. Is this not a blatant incitement to the soon-to-be-criminalised horrors of "downblousing"?

[MickyD]

Walton may be safe. But I do worry about the future for Parry's Blest Pair. Is this not a blatant incitement to the soon-to-be-criminalised horrors of "downblousing"?

Ha ha, excellent !
I have to say that whatever anyone thinks of the title, for me "Crown Imperial" is a thumping good piece of music.

[EnemyoftheStoat]

Walton may be safe. But I do worry about the future for Parry's Blest Pair. Is this not a blatant incitement to the soon-to-be-criminalised horrors of "downblousing"?

I'd have thought it's already illegal given that it's commonly referred to as Blest Pair of Nylons.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Not problematic really, as his 1937 Coronation march utilizes a quote from Shakespeare's Henry V, from a line which was in fact altered in Olivier's Henry V (1944) to read "the orb and sceptre, crown imperial" - thus incidentally providing the title for Walton's second Coronation march, from 1953!

Only the crudest presentism could slur Shakespeare's line from his English history with suspicion, pre-dating as it does any nasty goings on in Eastern climes.

Apart from anything else I deliberately chose that as the exit music at my wedding along with Wacht Auf from Die Meistersinger(obviously) . I thought I’d do the organist a favour and not force the Widor Tocatta on him.

[Master Jacques]

Apart from anything else I deliberately chose that as the exit music at my wedding along with Wacht Auf from Die Meistersinger(obviously) . I thought I’d do the organist a favour and not force the Widor Tocatta on him.

Good choices. For the exit my wife and I had the organ postlude from the Glagolitic Mass - and an organist who could play it! She came down the aisle to the Priests' March from The Magic Flute.

[oddoneout]

Not problematic really, as his 1937 Coronation march utilizes a quote from Shakespeare's Henry V, from a line which was in fact altered in Olivier's Henry V (1944) to read "the orb and sceptre, crown imperial" - thus incidentally providing the title for Walton's second Coronation march, from 1953!

Only the crudest presentism could slur Shakespeare's line from his English history with suspicion, pre-dating as it does any nasty goings on in Eastern climes.

Worry not, I wasn't serious.

[oddoneout]

I'd have thought it's already illegal given that it's commonly referred to as Blest Pair of Nylons.

Diminishingly so I would have thought - "nylons, what they"?

[teamsaint]

Good choices. For the exit my wife and I had the organ postlude from the Glagolitic Mass - and an organist who could play it! [/I].

Imparting this information in casual conversation must surely have led to the odd tumbleweed moment ?

[Ein Heldenleben]

Good choices. For the exit my wife and I had the organ postlude from the Glagolitic Mass - and an organist who could play it! She came down the aisle to the Priests' March from The Magic Flute.

Great stuff . I love that postlude.
I once was at a rehearsal for a performance of the Glagolitic at the RFH. The organist launched unannounced into it as the orchestra came on. One of the celli stopped practising , but his bow on the stand and stuck his fingers in his ears.

PS . My wife came down the aisle to the Masters March from the Wagner opera. It was carefully chosen and proved prophetic.

[EnemyoftheStoat]

Great stuff . I love that postlude.
I once was at a rehearsal for a performance of the Glagolitic at the RFH. The organist launched unannounced into it as the orchestra came on. One of the celli stopped practising , but his bow on the stand and stuck his fingers in his ears.

PS . My wife came down the aisle to the Masters March from the Wagner opera. It was carefully chosen and proved prophetic.

I presume that wasn't on the same occasion?

[Ein Heldenleben]

I presume that wasn't on the same occasion?

Sadly no. I think getting the LPO and Klaus T to perform in the nave of our local church would have stretched both budget and venue capacity. I also don’t think the Victorian organ could have coped with the Janacek. Sounded amazing on the RFH’s though..,