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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #46
    Originally posted by gradus View Post
    Since vinyl records are made of recyclable material, absent selling on, the last resort could be to shred them to pellets and oblige current manufacturers to include the recycled pellets in the manufacture of their new vinyl records. The effect on pressing quality should enhance the 'superior sound of vinyl' that is touted so loudly in some quarters.
    Do tell. My understanding is that vinyl disc are very difficult to recycle and end up going to landfill:

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    • Pulcinella
      Host
      • Feb 2014
      • 10950

      #47
      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      Do tell. My understanding is that vinyl disc are very difficult to recycle and end up going to landfill:

      https://recordplayerexpert.com/vinyl-record-disposal/
      Some enterprising soul should devise a recycling product out of them to be used for pothole fill, not land fill!

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37696

        #48
        Originally posted by MickyD View Post
        That's very sad to hear. I love to see CDs on my shelves in the same way as books - there is something rather comforting and reassuring about them.

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #49
          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
          Some enterprising soul should devise a recycling product out of them to be used for pothole fill, not land fill!
          That is, indeed, one possibility. (https://www.researchgate.net/publica...Wearing_Course) However, as the repair wears, the PVC would be released into the environment in microplastic form.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30302

            #50
            Originally posted by hmvman View Post
            Most of the classical records end up in the skip.
            I just checked the website "The 8 best record shops in Bristol" all dealing with vinyl/CDs, some "real collectors". Not one mentions classical music. Classic, yes; classical, no.

            However, this sounds more like it. Here is the "newly arrived" stuff. Might be worth contacting even if you're not near Bristol.

            Home page.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              #51
              Originally posted by MickyD View Post
              That's very sad to hear. I love to see CDs on my shelves in the same way as books - there is something rather comforting and reassuring about them.
              Downloader from around 2011 to 2017 or so, HQ/hi-res streamer from 2016 to now, but I still feel the same about "the shelves", love doing the "shelf-tour", and buy CDs regularly, if streaming the albums inspires the deep love. (I do tend to misplace them more often now though; usually I find them back on the shelves, but in the wrong place.....doh , etc...)

              I came to CD late in 1998 (digital intercourse began in 1998, which wasn't quite too late for me...)... so it still feels special to buy a new one; several companies make a great deal of the artwork and presentation now. (The new Levin Mozart has the hardback-book style, with lovely photos and analyses of the piano used...).

              Vinyl was never big with me, either physically or emotionally, couldn't afford many and usually borrowed library stock of wildly variable conditions. I sold what I had to a stockbroker in the early 90s, so I could afford a much-needed winter coat. He saw them as more than a commodity at the time (probably...I hope...), but never played them much in his Belgravia or Paris apartments. Later he said that music wasn't really a part of his life anymore. I never knew what became of those records...

              Principle: sound and presentational quality rules for me, online or off, but - just be very eclectic, really, access and enjoy and love your music any which way, hang loose.....
              Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 16-03-23, 20:22.

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22127

                #52
                Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                That's very sad to hear. I love to see CDs on my shelves in the same way as books - there is something rather comforting and reassuring about them.
                Me too, but I do worry that there's a fine dividing line between being a collector and a hoarder as the collection grows!

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                • Constantbee
                  Full Member
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 504

                  #53
                  If it’s any consolation there does still appear to be a market, admittedly small, for certain highly regarded classical recordings on vinyl. Now a regular listener to Record Review I sometimes search online for something I like the sound of. I don’t always agree with the recommendations but then it’s a good thing we don’t all like the same things, isn’t it. Having listened to AMcG’s feature on Shostakovich Quartet No 8 on 21 January and perused the opinions of esteemed fellow forumites (naturally) I started looking for hte earliest Borodin Quartet recordings I could find. The search brought up a 1967 Ace of Diamonds vinyl LP of quartets 2 and 8 for under a fiver. ‘Bargain!’ I thought, and put a low bid on thinking it unlikely that anybody else would be interested. How wrong I was. ‘Oh well, the grapes probably tasted sour anyway … ‘ thought Vixen Sharp-Ears. The idea of listening to the quartet in the same recording medium, crackles and all, as the composer himself and the performers who premiered the piece, just appealed to me, that’s all.

                  It’s heartening to note that there is, in fact, the identical LP (Decca/Ace of Diamonds SDD 156 ED1) on offer at £25. Described as ‘Near Mint Condition’
                  And the tune ends too soon for us all

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                  • cloughie
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22127

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Constantbee View Post
                    If it’s any consolation there does still appear to be a market, admittedly small, for certain highly regarded classical recordings on vinyl. Now a regular listener to Record Review I sometimes search online for something I like the sound of. I don’t always agree with the recommendations but then it’s a good thing we don’t all like the same things, isn’t it. Having listened to AMcG’s feature on Shostakovich Quartet No 8 on 21 January and perused the opinions of esteemed fellow forumites (naturally) I started looking for hte earliest Borodin Quartet recordings I could find. The search brought up a 1967 Ace of Diamonds vinyl LP of quartets 2 and 8 for under a fiver. ‘Bargain!’ I thought, and put a low bid on thinking it unlikely that anybody else would be interested. How wrong I was. ‘Oh well, the grapes probably tasted sour anyway … ‘ thought Vixen Sharp-Ears. The idea of listening to the quartet in the same recording medium, crackles and all, as the composer himself and the performers who premiered the piece, just appealed to me, that’s all.

                    It’s heartening to note that there is, in fact, the identical LP (Decca/Ace of Diamonds SDD 156 ED1) on offer at £25. Described as ‘Near Mint Condition’
                    It has my long term favourite recording of Borodin's SQ2 but I am happy to listen on the Eloquence CD!

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                    • gradus
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5609

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      Do tell. My understanding is that vinyl disc are very difficult to recycle and end up going to landfill:

                      https://recordplayerexpert.com/vinyl-record-disposal/
                      As your article explains it is perfectly possible to convert old vinyl into new vinyl but rather more difficult to break it down into its basic materials. Many years ago when I worked in the record manufacturing business, it was common practice to recycle scrap pressings and mix the resultant pellets into virgin vinyl. I imagine that pressing quality may have needed a careful eye with used vinyl but it was nonetheless done by the major companies. If anyone owns records made by SAGA/Associated Recordings you may occasionally notice an elusive whiff of curry or other deliciousness when removing the disc from the sleeve, it being difficult to prevent the pressing machine operators from placing their lunch tins on the LP stampers to warm them up.

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                      • MickyD
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 4775

                        #56
                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        Me too, but I do worry that there's a fine dividing line between being a collector and a hoarder as the collection grows!
                        Yes indeed - in this house, I describe myself as the former and my other half would call me the latter!

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                        • Petrushka
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12254

                          #57
                          This isn't me, I promise, but it could just as well be...

                          video, sharing, camera phone, video phone, free, upload


                          Is it anyone on here?
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22127

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                            This isn't me, I promise, but it could just as well be...

                            video, sharing, camera phone, video phone, free, upload


                            Is it anyone on here?
                            Puts a whole new meaning to BaL!

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                            • Cockney Sparrow
                              Full Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 2284

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                              This isn't me, I promise, but it could just as well be...
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkzsN9R8hn4 Is it anyone on here?
                              Not me, but it could be very useful for pointing out to Mrs CS that I don't qualify as a serious collector - despite what she says!

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                                This isn't me, I promise, but it could just as well be...

                                video, sharing, camera phone, video phone, free, upload


                                Is it anyone on here?
                                Too well organised to be mine. Still, as a starter collection . . .

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