Oboe concertos

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  • MickyD
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    • Nov 2010
    • 4778

    #16
    My personal favourites are the two by CPE Bach. I have a nice version by Ku Ebbinge with Ton Koopman, and they add a very pleasant oboe sonata for good measure.

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    • RichardB
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      • Nov 2021
      • 2170

      #17
      Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
      Ferneyhough - Allgebrah
      Now you're talking.

      I'd forgotten about that one, also the one by Bernd Alois Zimmermann (1952).

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      • Opinionated Knowall
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        • Jan 2014
        • 61

        #18
        Originally posted by RichardB View Post
        The story of how it came about is often told, with oboist John de Lancie turning up at Strauss's home during the US Army's occupation of Bavaria and asking him whether he'd ever consider writing a concerto for oboe, which he duly did, assigning the rights for the first US performance to de Lancie, who had to give them to someone else because he was only a junior member of the Philadelphia Orchestra at the time. (He didn't play it until 1964 in the end.) In the "not many people know this" category is the fact that de Lancie's son, also John, not only played a recurring character in Star Trek but (I found very recently) is also an opera librettist.
        Another charming concertante work for oboe, which John de Lancie recorded (was he the dedicatee? Commissioner?) is L'horloge de flore by Jean Francaix. Also Thea Musgrave wrote the terrific Helios.

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        • Bryn
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          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #19
          Let's not forget Feldman's Oboe and Orchestra:

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          • Pulcinella
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            • Feb 2014
            • 10966

            #20

            I'd forgotten about the Strauss (which I have with Manfred Clement/Staatskapelle Dresden/Kempe) and the Rawsthorne (I have that Naxos CD!).

            And again: got my Hindemith concertos and sonatas mixed up!

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20570

              #21
              Elliot Carter's Oboe Concerto is an interesting case. The highest note on an oboe is generally accepted as G on the 4th ledger line. So Elliot Carter began his oboe concerto on the A above that!

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 10966

                #22
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                Elliot Carter's Oboe Concerto is an interesting case. The highest note on an oboe is generally accepted as G on the 4th ledger line. So Elliot Carter began his oboe concerto on the A above that!
                Oh no! Another one on the shelves that I'd forgotten about.

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                • RichardB
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                  • Nov 2021
                  • 2170

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  The highest note on an oboe is generally accepted as G on the 4th ledger line. So Elliot Carter began his oboe concerto on the A above that!
                  Yes but of course he wouldn't have done if Holliger hadn't told him it was possible. And then there's this that goes up to C...

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11709

                    #24
                    Martinu

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                    • pastoralguy
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7766

                      #25
                      Has anyone mentioned Ruth Gipps’ Oboe Concerto? I ordered a cd from Chandos and received a promotional disc which includes an extract. Sounds very interesting.

                      Juliana Koch, oboe. BBC Philharmonic conducted by Rumon Gamba.

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                      • cloughie
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                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22128

                        #26
                        Alan Rawsthorne (composed in 1947)
                        Naxos 8.554763/Stéphane Rancourt/RSNO/David Lloyd-Jones)

                        Helios CDH55019
                        Rutland Boughton Concerto for Oboe and Strings No. 1 in C
                        (Sarah Francis/RPO/Handley, c/w Symphony No. 3 in B Minor)

                        I was informed of these by a former forum friend - never ‘eared ‘em so can’t vouch for how good they are! Probably fine as I trust his choices (mostly)!

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                        • ahinton
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16123

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          Elliot Carter's Oboe Concerto is an interesting case. The highest note on an oboe is generally accepted as G on the 4th ledger line. So Elliot Carter began his oboe concerto on the A above that!
                          At some point in the latter 1930s (I believe), Elliott Carter (who played the oboe himself) began work on a cor anglé concerto but seems to have abandoned it never to return to it; I don't know if what he did write of it remains in existence. Whether he recalled this more than 60 years later when writing what was then called Dialogues for piano and orchestra (now Dialogues I for those forces) I also do not know but although the pianist is obviously the soloist in it, the work begins with a cor anglé solo...

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20570

                            #28
                            Originally posted by RichardB View Post
                            Yes but of course he wouldn't have done if Holliger hadn't told him it was possible. And then there's this that goes up to C...
                            I’m not suggesting Carter was wrong, but such a decision could have the practical disadvantage of discouraging the work’s wider use.

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                            • Joseph K
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                              • Oct 2017
                              • 7765

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              I’m not suggesting Carter was wrong, but such a decision could have the practical disadvantage of discouraging the work’s wider use.
                              But composers have been stretching what's practical for hundreds of years!

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                                But composers have been stretching what's practical for hundreds of years!
                                They have indeed, and it has encouraged the development of newer and better instruments.

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