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  • kea
    Full Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 749

    #16
    Originally posted by RichardB View Post
    I've never paid much attention to Mozart's piano sonatas, in distinction to Haydn's which I've spent much time with. So, after reading Bryn's post, I listened to Lubimov, Badura-Skoda and Schoonderwoerd playing K576. Annoyingly, Qobuz doesn't include the liner notes for either set. As I imagined would be the case, Lubimov is very smooth and assured, maybe too much so, Badura-Skoda somewhat too far in the other direction. Schoonderwoerd would be my choice from these three as far as the playing is concerned, but his recording sounds a bit as if the microphones and the piano aren't in the same room.
    For 576 in particular (which, ok, there aren't a lot of other Mozart sonatas I care about) I would look for Jos van Immerseel on Vivarte. It's a difficult sonata to get right and very few performances are entirely convincing.

    (For complete cycles, I'm happy with PBS and Kristian Bezuidenhout. I want to hear Bilson as well, at some point.)

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    • Mandryka
      Full Member
      • Feb 2021
      • 1504

      #17
      Samuel Feinberg in 576 for me! Followed by Giovanni de Cecco.
      Last edited by Mandryka; 24-01-22, 06:50.

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      • RichardB
        Banned
        • Nov 2021
        • 2170

        #18
        Originally posted by kea View Post
        For 576 in particular (which, ok, there aren't a lot of other Mozart sonatas I care about) I would look for Jos van Immerseel on Vivarte. It's a difficult sonata to get right and very few performances are entirely convincing.

        (For complete cycles, I'm happy with PBS and Kristian Bezuidenhout. I want to hear Bilson as well, at some point.)
        Thanks, I will bear those in mind. Don't you think PBS is a bit unrhythmical, in this sonata at least?

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        • MickyD
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 4734

          #19
          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          There was also a L'Oiseau Lyre disc with Schiff playing on Mozart's fortepiano...I have it somewhere on my shelves.

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22075

            #20
            Originally posted by MickyD View Post
            There was also a L'Oiseau Lyre disc with Schiff playing on Mozart's fortepiano...I have it somewhere on my shelves.
            It is in fact the one, Micky - mentions L’oiseau lyre in footnotes!

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            • RichardB
              Banned
              • Nov 2021
              • 2170

              #21
              Further to my earlier somewhat dismissive comment about Schoonderwoerd's recording - after a couple of sonatas I got used to it. The advantages of his recording is an instrument with more character than Lubimov's and less aggressive than PBS's very closely recorded sound (although for me PBS is ruled out by his playing). Schoonderwoerd is also fairly generous (but tasteful) with ornamentation, which some might not like but I can't believe that Mozart would have sat there and only played the notes on the page, especially when there are repeats.

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #22
                Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                There was also a L'Oiseau Lyre disc with Schiff playing on Mozart's fortepiano...I have it somewhere on my shelves.
                It's in here.too:



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                • gurnemanz
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7359

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  Haebler is up there with the best when it comes to Mozart. Her complete set of the Mozart Piano Concertos was available on CD for a while, but I didn't buy them, though I'd had them on LP. Then they appeared again, but this time bundled with her Schubert recordings. By the time I'd decided to buy that set with the extras I didn't really want that the time, the set had been sold out.

                  Still, I live in hope.
                  I was reminded that I had a Philips Duo twofer of piano duets with Haebler and Ludwig Hoffmann, which I hadn't heard for while. I listened again to several with great pleasure.

                  The only other recordings I have are a fine set of the complete Mozart Violin Sonatas with Henryk Szeryng on 4 CDs and an old Vox recording of Piano Concerto 13 K 415, Vienna 1956

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 29926

                    #24
                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Yes, a 'tourist' souvenir bought in the Tanzmeisterhaus! (I also have Andreas Haefliger playing the C minor K457, together with the Fantasia K475 (another of my favourites). I see these are the Oiseau-Lyre recordings.

                    Many thanks to everyone who's suggested period instrument versions. Comments noted.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11530

                      #25
                      I had a tape of hers once playing some J C Bach piano concertos. I recall it was very good.

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                      • MickyD
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 4734

                        #26
                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        It is in fact the one, Micky - mentions L’oiseau lyre in footnotes!
                        Oops, sorry, I didn't get that far! The cover picture confused me, as my original one is like this:



                        It's now going for just over a pound on Amazon UK!

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                        • MickyD
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 4734

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                          I had a tape of hers once playing some J C Bach piano concertos. I recall it was very good.
                          If I remember correctly, she recorded them all in a Philips set on LP, using a Neupert fortepiano.

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                          • Edgy 2
                            Guest
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 2035

                            #28
                            Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                            I was reminded that I had a Philips Duo twofer of piano duets with Haebler and Ludwig Hoffmann, which I hadn't heard for while. I listened again to several with great pleasure.

                            The only other recordings I have are a fine set of the complete Mozart Violin Sonatas with Henryk Szeryng on 4 CDs and an old Vox recording of Piano Concerto 13 K 415, Vienna 1956
                            I'd forgotten that I have those as part of the big Szeryng box.
                            “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post
                              I'd forgotten that I have those as part of the big Szeryng box.
                              Easily done when one has quite a few multi-disc boxes. I knew I had the Schiff recordings one Mozart's instrument but it was only when l'oiseau-lyre was mentioned that I thought to look in the Classical and Early Romantic box.

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                              • jayne lee wilson
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 10711

                                #30
                                Mozart Violin Sonatas? Here's my go-to, lived with it since 2020....lovely box.



                                Faust/Melnikov have been working through them recently, just as distinctively fine as you'd expect...perhaps a little more flair and individuality & overt musical expression than the Kuijken...but that "objectivity" is Kuikjen's way of course.
                                Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 25-01-22, 01:08.

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