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  • Suffolkcoastal
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3297

    The 2021 Survey of Classical Music on Radio 3

    Here’s my 2021 Survey of Classical Music on Radio 3, the 13th I’ve undertaken. As with everything else, Covid continued to have impact on the live concerts, though less so than in 2020. The huge unprecedented increase in non-classical works being played in the usual classical music slots noted in 2019 & 2020 accelerated to frightening levels in 2021, increasing by a further 28% and is now 5 times what it was 10 years ago & accounts for around 10.5% of the chunks/pieces in classical programmes! The website with the published playlists, continued to remain a total shambles, with the usual multiple instances of duplications and mis-attributations. Another notable feature was the very large increase in arrangements of works, some of which could only be described as disarrangements.
    Anniversary composers were very much a mixed bag. Stravinsky was generally poorly treated for one of the great composers. Heavy emphasis on The Firebird, Petrushka & Pulcinella, whilst any work composed post ‘The Rakes Progress’, was largely ignored. Saint-Saens was reasonably treated, though R3 overdosed on the Carnival of the Animals. Arnold was a tad disappointing, especially symphonically, the 5th Symphony excepted, Gipps about what was expected, though like Arnold, the amount broadcast tailed off considerably in the last couple of months of the year. Robert Simpson finally made it as COTW, but as expected apart from that was largely ignored. Josquin was reasonably represented, Piazzolla grossly over played & Fayrfax kept to a minimum. The continuing promotion of women composers, particularly certain favoured ones, is considerably overdone IMO. Many of R3’s favourite warhorses were broadcast in record numbers yet again. Particularly Ravel’s Le Tombeau de Couperin & Mother Goose, as well as Schubert Impromptus, The Four Seasons & the Adagio for Strings.
    As usual, a list of all composers with 50 or more pieces/chunks broadcast is in the thread below. If there are any composers not in this category that you would like to know the figures for, please let me know.
    The *against a composer indicates the highest number of pieces/chunks by that composer since I began my survey in 2009, whilst the # indicates the lowest number since 2009.
    The R3 Symphony survey will follow shortly as usual.
  • Suffolkcoastal
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3297

    #2
    1 bach j s 1711
    2 mozart w a 1510
    3 beethoven 1143
    4 schubert 1029
    5 brahms 785
    6 haydn f j 755
    7 handel 734
    8 debussy 645
    9 chopin 605
    10 dvorak 586
    11 tchaikovsky p i 580*
    12 schumann r 544
    13 vivaldi 539*
    14 mendelssohn felix 534
    15 ravel 527
    16 britten 435
    17 strauss r 422
    18 sibelius 387
    19 vaughan williams 385*
    20 rachmaninov 372
    21 stravinsky 367*
    22 saint-saens 357*
    23 grieg 339
    24 elgar 335
    25 liszt 321
    26 purcell h 311
    27 shostakovich 306
    28 telemann 285
    29 faure 258
    30 prokofiev s 252
    31 poulenc 240
    32 mahler g 231
    33 wagner r 229
    34 byrd 224*
    35 gershwin 211
    36 bartok 191
    37 rameau 186
    38 berlioz 183
    39 verdi 180#
    40 monteverdi 175
    41 rossini 173
    42 scarlatti d 170
    43 copland 158
    44 janacek 157
    45 piazzolla 151*
    46 arnold m 149*
    47 bach c p e 146
    47 schumann c 146
    48 strauss j ii 145
    49 price florence 139*
    50 holst g 137
    50 josquin 137*
    50 puccini 137
    51 part 136
    52 korngold 134*
    53 nielsen c 128
    54 dowland 124
    54 weber c m von 124
    55 bruckner 123
    56 beach 120*
    57 bizet 119
    57 rimsky korsakov 119
    57 walton w 119
    58 glass p 118
    59 coleridge-taylor s 117*
    60 respighi 116*
    60 satie 116
    61 corelli 115
    62 bernstein l 112
    63 finzi 109*
    64 grainger p 106
    65 falla 100
    66 mendelssohn fanny 93*
    67 smetana 89
    68 barber s 88
    68 bingen hildegard of 88*
    68 stanford 88*
    69 bridge 87
    70 mussorgsky 86
    71 sullivan 85
    71 tallis 85
    72 kodaly 83
    73 paganini 82
    74 glazunov 79
    75 delius 77
    75 franck c 77
    75 macmillan j 77
    76 schoenberg 76
    76 scriabin 76
    77 albeniz 75
    77 bruch 75
    78 gipps 74*
    79 reich 73
    79 wolf h 73
    80 chaminade 70*
    81 borodin 69
    81 couperin f 69
    81 messiaen 69
    82 gabrieli g 68
    83 farrenc l 67*
    83 gounod 67
    83 suk 67
    83 tabakova 67*
    84 glinka 66
    84 ligeti g 66
    84 zelenka 66*
    85 howells 64
    85 still w g 64
    86 bax 63*
    86 gibbons o 63
    87 palestrina 61
    88 adams j 60
    88 gesualdo 60
    88 ireland j 60
    88 mcdowell celia 60*
    88 martinu 60
    88 tavener 60
    89 boccherini 59
    89 enescu 59
    89 victoria 59
    89 villa lobos 59
    90 boulanger l 57
    90 tippett 57
    91 pejacevic 56
    92 biber 55
    92 hahn r 55
    92 shaw caroline 55*
    93 ades 54*
    93 milhaud 54
    93 strozzi b 54
    94 kats-chernin 53*
    94 richter m 53
    94 saint-georges 53*
    95 bacewicz 52
    95 higdon j 52*
    96 kreisler f 51
    96 lassus 51
    96 rodrigo 51
    96 scarlatti a 51
    96 walker g 51*
    96 weir j 51
    97 lully 50
    97 smyth 50*
    97 stenhammar 50

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30520

      #3
      Only 1 January anf already we have the latest report! Thank you very much for your diligence, Suffolk. Much to be studied (for what purpose in my own case - or FoR3's, I don't know, as I lost patience a few years ago). I am, as oddoneout described elsewhere, one of the vulnerable generation which the BBC considers expendable.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • DracoM
        Host
        • Mar 2007
        • 12995

        #4
        Yes indeed, FF,,,,,,,,,spectacular effort.

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        • antongould
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8837

          #5
          Excellent work as ever sir …. R3 cannot hide its drift with you about ….

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          • RichardB
            Banned
            • Nov 2021
            • 2170

            #6
            Thanks SC, much food for thought there.

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            • hmvman
              Full Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1130

              #7
              Many thanks as ever, SC, for your work on this. It makes fascinating, if often depressing, reading!

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              • Ein Heldenleben
                Full Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 6975

                #8
                Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                Here’s my 2021 Survey of Classical Music on Radio 3, the 13th I’ve undertaken. As with everything else, Covid continued to have impact on the live concerts, though less so than in 2020. The huge unprecedented increase in non-classical works being played in the usual classical music slots noted in 2019 & 2020 accelerated to frightening levels in 2021, increasing by a further 28% and is now 5 times what it was 10 years ago & accounts for around 10.5% of the chunks/pieces in classical programmes! The website with the published playlists, continued to remain a total shambles, with the usual multiple instances of duplications and mis-attributations. Another notable feature was the very large increase in arrangements of works, some of which could only be described as disarrangements.
                Anniversary composers were very much a mixed bag. Stravinsky was generally poorly treated for one of the great composers. Heavy emphasis on The Firebird, Petrushka & Pulcinella, whilst any work composed post ‘The Rakes Progress’, was largely ignored. Saint-Saens was reasonably treated, though R3 overdosed on the Carnival of the Animals. Arnold was a tad disappointing, especially symphonically, the 5th Symphony excepted, Gipps about what was expected, though like Arnold, the amount broadcast tailed off considerably in the last couple of months of the year. Robert Simpson finally made it as COTW, but as expected apart from that was largely ignored. Josquin was reasonably represented, Piazzolla grossly over played & Fayrfax kept to a minimum. The continuing promotion of women composers, particularly certain favoured ones, is considerably overdone IMO. Many of R3’s favourite warhorses were broadcast in record numbers yet again. Particularly Ravel’s Le Tombeau de Couperin & Mother Goose, as well as Schubert Impromptus, The Four Seasons & the Adagio for Strings.
                As usual, a list of all composers with 50 or more pieces/chunks broadcast is in the thread below. If there are any composers not in this category that you would like to know the figures for, please let me know.
                The *against a composer indicates the highest number of pieces/chunks by that composer since I began my survey in 2009, whilst the # indicates the lowest number since 2009.
                The R3 Symphony survey will follow shortly as usual.
                Bruckner and Beach level pegging - you couldn’t make it up!

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30520

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                  Bruckner and Beach level pegging - you couldn’t make it up!
                  And Gershwin way above Bruckner, I assume for a similar reason? Beach and Gershwin have a certain number of handy 'filler' length works to be dotted around. Perhaps SC could clarify that point?
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Edgy 2
                    Guest
                    • Jan 2019
                    • 2035

                    #10
                    Excellent job as always sc
                    Piazzolla and Price in the top 50, blimey what has become of Radio 3
                    I'd love to know the figures for Alkan, Weinberg and Taneyev if you have the time ( I won't trouble you with a whole raft of lesser known British composers)
                    “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                    • Suffolkcoastal
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3297

                      #11
                      You can trouble me with as many as you like Edgy.

                      Alkan - 19 (which is actually his highest since I started in 2009!)
                      Weinberg - 17 (best is 39 in 2014)
                      Taneyev - 6 (best is 36 also 2014)

                      Both Weinberg & Taneyev were COTW in 2014.

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                      • antongould
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8837

                        #12
                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        And Gershwin way above Bruckner, I assume for a similar reason? Beach and Gershwin have a certain number of handy 'filler' length works to be dotted around. Perhaps SC could clarify that point?
                        From Andrew’s excellent database - average length of pieces played

                        Bruckner 20 mins 9 secs
                        Beech 6 mins 49 secs
                        Gershwin 6 mins 21 secs

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                        • Suffolkcoastal
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3297

                          #13
                          Bruckner's shorter choral works like the Graduals - such as Os Justi & Locus Iste, account for a fair proportion of Bruckner broadcast. He had 23 complete symphony broadcasts.

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                          • Edgy 2
                            Guest
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 2035

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                            You can trouble me with as many as you like Edgy.

                            Alkan - 19 (which is actually his highest since I started in 2009!)
                            Weinberg - 17 (best is 39 in 2014)
                            Taneyev - 6 (best is 36 also 2014)

                            Both Weinberg & Taneyev were COTW in 2014.
                            Oh many thanks for those sc you're very kind
                            I'll take you up on your British composers offer if I may

                            how about this bunch ?

                            York Bowen
                            Ferguson
                            Parry
                            Brian
                            Cooke
                            Elcock
                            Mathias
                            McEwen
                            Hoddinott
                            George Lloyd
                            Daniel Jones
                            David Matthews
                            Alan Rawsthorne
                            Lennox Berkeley
                            “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                            • antongould
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8837

                              #15
                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              And Gershwin way above Bruckner, I assume for a similar reason? Beach and Gershwin have a certain number of handy 'filler' length works to be dotted around. Perhaps SC could clarify that point?

                              Interestingly, or maybe not, only a score of 7 plays in the Gershwin total for Rhapsody in Blue ……

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