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  • Ein Heldenleben
    Full Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 6761

    #16
    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    Not, maybe, the most secure of fingerwork at times but my favourite of the Beethoven cadenzas for the first movement.
    Are you talking about Beethoven 3 or 4 ? I thought some of the scales in 3 went a bit awry…

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #17
      Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
      Are you talking about Beethoven 3 or 4 ? I thought some of the scales in 3 went a bit awry…
      4, to which I have just listened. Not too sure of some of the phrasing but, after all, Beethoven had second thoughts about aspects of this concerto, so what the Hell.

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      • Ein Heldenleben
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        • Apr 2014
        • 6761

        #18
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        4, to which I have just listened. Not too sure of some of the phrasing but, after all, Beethoven had second thoughts about aspects of this concerto, so what the Hell.
        All completely nitpicking and it might be the piano which sounds a bit harsh in the upper notes but I thought some of the scales sounded a bit “bashed out” almost too detached and not legato enough .He sounded a bit nervy in the first movement but ended well.

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #19
          Rather enjoying this Bartok. I did find some of playing a little perfunctory at times in the great slow movement, surely up there with that of Beethoven's 4th. However, this final movement is very much in the idiom.

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #20
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            Rather enjoying this Bartok. I did find some of playing a little perfunctory at times in the great slow movement, surely up there with that of Beethoven's 4th. However, this final movement is very much in the idiom.
            Ah, I'm not alone regarding the slow movement, it seems. Really hoping for the best with the Brahms 2.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6761

              #21
              I enjoyed to an extent all the performances. I think in terms of integration with the orchestra the Brahms was possibly the outstanding performance . Some beautifully phrased and characterised touches particularly in the last movement .But to be honest all the pianists had pretty much the same sound . The days when you could tell pianists apart seem long over.

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              • Braunschlag
                Full Member
                • Jul 2017
                • 484

                #22
                Alim Beisembayev - I’ll second that for first prize, great to hear Rachmaninov as a finals piece, almost thought he was going out of fashion. Could have done without the interminable gushing of Adam Gatehouse thanking everyone except the janitors and the obvious Medici plugs (but thanks Medici, you did a good job there but no thanks to the absent BBC).
                Maybe there isn’t much to choose in sound terms Heldenleben, but the end result suited me.

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                • Ein Heldenleben
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 6761

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Braunschlag View Post
                  Alim Beisembayev - I’ll second that for first prize, great to hear Rachmaninov as a finals piece, almost thought he was going out of fashion. Could have done without the interminable gushing of Adam Gatehouse thanking everyone except the janitors and the obvious Medici plugs (but thanks Medici, you did a good job there but no thanks to the absent BBC).
                  Maybe there isn’t much to choose in sound terms Heldenleben, but the end result suited me.
                  Yes it was a very good performance- very accurate technically . I just think the Brahms is so much more of a musical challenge .

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                  • ucanseetheend
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 297

                    #24
                    Did anyone see Kathryn Stott introduce a guest . I think it was manager of Eric lu, as Orlando Bloom , his surname was Orlando. She had to be quickly corrected by Trelawney
                    "Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26524

                      #25
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26524

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                        Re Telly Not so far as I can see, . Been through next week on both two and four and can’t find anything .

                        There’s a 90 minute () highlight programme on BBC Four this Sunday evening:

                        Five outstanding young pianists compete for one of the world’s most coveted music prizes.


                        It follows a documentary about Dame Fanny W (been on before I think).

                        Having listened to all the concerto performances, it’s the Brahms I returned to for a second listen. That was top for me. The Rach/Pag was okay but…

                        I suppose there was some live electricity that we missed over the radio
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Ein Heldenleben
                          Full Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 6761

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

                          There’s a 90 minute () highlight programme on BBC Four this Sunday evening:

                          Five outstanding young pianists compete for one of the world’s most coveted music prizes.


                          It follows a documentary about Dame Fanny W (been on before I think).

                          Having listened to all the concerto performances, it’s the Brahms I returned to for a second listen. That was top for me. The Rach/Pag was okay but…

                          I suppose there was some live electricity that we missed over the radio
                          Yep with you on the Brahms - some real sensitivity and poetry in the playing . The Rach Rhap is a bit of (hi quality ) flim-flam in comparison..though very well played. I hear the winner is doing a Master’s at the RCM

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                          • ardcarp
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11102

                            #28
                            I seem to be at odds with most of you guys, but I was entranced by Kaito Kobayashi playing the Bartok concerto. I sensed exceptional empathy between conductor, orchestra and him. Why isn't the Bartok Concerto No 3 better known? It's glorious with especially lyrical lines.

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                            • Ein Heldenleben
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 6761

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                              I seem to be at odds with most of you guys, but I was entranced by Kaito Kobayashi playing the Bartok concerto. I sensed exceptional empathy between conductor, orchestra and him. Why isn't the Bartok Concerto No 3 better known? It's glorious with especially lyrical lines.
                              Yes wonderful. Just watching his performance of the slow movement now. That must be one of the most beautiful pieces written in the 20th century yet unlike the Ravel in G it rarely gets an outing. His performance of this was magical - the variety of touch, the constant use of silent finger changes to maintain legato without pedal blurring in the very simple chordal harmonies at the beginning. The delicacy in the scherzando passages - so much to learn from …he definitely has a career ahead.

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                              • ardcarp
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11102

                                #30
                                That must be one of the most beautiful pieces written in the 20th century yet unlike the Ravel in G it rarely gets an outing
                                That is my opinion too, though I wasn't brave enough to say so! Yes, I also hope Kaito has a great career.

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