Christa Ludwig 1928 - 2021

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11518

    #16
    There is a cheap Original jackets Record of her recordings with Klemperer on Warner . It contains her terrific Wesendonck Lieder , the Liebestod, Leonore’s big number from Fidelio that I cannot remember how to spell and some Mahler including the three most important Ruckert Lieder - wonderful singing.

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26440

      #17
      Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
      Which classic Das Lied? I think she made at least 3. I am listening to the Karajan at present.
      The Klemperer one. I thought that was supposed the be the classic. Actually, to be honest, it’s Wunderlich’s contribution that I go back to...



      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      What? No Bluebeard's Castle?
      No. The Fricsay is the only recording I have of that
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • Richard Barrett
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        • Jan 2016
        • 6259

        #18
        Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
        The Klemperer one. I thought that was supposed the be the classic.
        By adherents of the Klemperer cult I suppose... CL's recording of the Lied with Karajan, quite apart from the voices, contains some of the most exquisite orchestral playing I've ever heard.

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
          By adherents of the Klemperer cult I suppose... CL's recording of the Lied with Karajan, quite apart from the voices, contains some of the most exquisite orchestral playing I've ever heard.
          Which can’t be said of the Israel PO with Bernstein but I feel Ludwig is at her best there. Anyone know her live account with Lewis and Reiner in Chicago in 1958 ?

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          • Bryn
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            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #20
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            . . . Anyone know her live account with Lewis and Reiner in Chicago in 1958 ?
            No, but now learning of its existence, I have just ordered a "Used - Very Good" copy on CD.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6579

              #21
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              Which can’t be said of the Israel PO with Bernstein but I feel Ludwig is at her best there. Anyone know her live account with Lewis and Reiner in Chicago in 1958 ?
              I think that recording was filmed with , at one point , Lenny expressing his frustration at this sublime singer being unable to keep up with his ridiculously fast tempo. Whatever his merits as a conductor sympathy for, and understanding of , singers and their needs was not one of them.

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              • cloughie
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                • Dec 2011
                • 22068

                #22
                Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                I think that recording was filmed with , at one point , Lenny expressing his frustration at this sublime singer being unable to keep up with his ridiculously fast tempo. Whatever his merits as a conductor sympathy for, and understanding of , singers and their needs was not one of them.
                Ask Jose Carerras!

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #23
                  Mine has just arrived of the Ludwig/Lewis /Chicago SO/Reiner Das Lied - will give it a spin tomorrow.

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11518

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                    Mine has just arrived of the Ludwig/Lewis /Chicago SO/Reiner Das Lied - will give it a spin tomorrow.
                    The recording seems to make Lewis seem further away than Ludwig but despite the odd cough is perfectly serviceable.

                    Ludwig is in absolutely gorgeous voice - Reiner’s conducting whilst cooler than Walter and especially Lenny is very fine and supports his singers.

                    Highly recommended especially for the late Christa.Also very lovely oboe playing in the finale.
                    Last edited by Barbirollians; 29-04-21, 12:15.

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                    • vinteuil
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12664

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      The recording seems to make Lewis seem further away than Lewis ...
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                      ... which Lewis is Ludwig?

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                      • Bryn
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #26
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... which Lewis is Ludwig?
                        The one with the higher-pitched voice.

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                        • vinteuil
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12664

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          The one with the higher-pitched voice.
                          ... not Satchmo, then?

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11518

                            #28
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            ... which Lewis is Ludwig?

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                            The latter.

                            I do not have the legendary recording of Duke Bluebeard’s Castle so have ordered that today.

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