Refresher "course" on UK pop (or beginners ...)

[Dave2002]

This article from the Grauniad gives a potentially "useful" list of current pop groups. Might be useful if any of us ever get on to Geriatrics University Challenge! [apologies to anyone under 40.]

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/mar/18/why-bands-are-disappearing-young-people-arent-excited-by-them

It mentions groups I didn't know existed, and obviously Gordon Brown's "favourite" Arctic Monkeys are long gone. There are a few longstanding ones I have heard of - Kings of Leon, Fleetwood Mac - but others such as the Killers, Little Mix, Rudimental, Wolf Alice ... and others listed in the article are unknown to and by me, and will probably remain so.

So I offer this link for any politician with an imminent call to Desert Island Discs - but make a suggestion - "Choose one group mentioned in the article, listen to some of their output, remember the names of some of them, and have at least one reason why you like one or two of them" .... Also remember, by next year the world will have moved on.

The trends about tastes and how the commercialism around pop music are changing - perhaps due to social media are also of some slight interest.

[cloughie]

This article from the Grauniad gives a potentially "useful" list of current pop groups. Might be useful if any of us ever get on to Geriatrics University Challenge! [apologies to anyone under 40.]

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/mar/18/why-bands-are-disappearing-young-people-arent-excited-by-them

It mentions groups I didn't know existed, and obviously Gordon Brown's "favourite" Arctic Monkeys are long gone. There are a few longstanding ones I have heard of - Kings of Leon, Fleetwood Mac - but others such as the Killers, Little Mix, Rudimental, Wolf Alice ... and others listed in the article are unknown to and by me, and will probably remain so.

So I offer this link for any politician with an imminent call to Desert Island Discs - but make a suggestion - "Choose one group mentioned in the article, listen to some of their output, remember the names of some of them, and have at least one reason why you like one or two of them" .... Also remember, by next year the world will have moved on.

The trends about tastes and how the commercialism around pop music are changing - perhaps due to social media are also of some slight interest.

Someone can’t add up Fleetwood Mac are 54 years old!

[eighthobstruction]

....may be that no body likes the noise of rehearsing bands any more.....certainly the dirty, dusty, cold and dismal buildings i rehearsed in are now grannyflats, up market cheese makers and some flattened for carparking. Post mod WW2 had its crumbling advantages and very few H&S issues.
,,,,certainly it seems to be a time of self-containment....people walking along with headphones [and i am sure while i don't know for sure they may possibly be listening to charles moores memoirs of m thatcher at home, tea and toast on armrest]....PLUS i.e. +, making music in their bedrooms on computer software with headphones....numbers of individual act UK:- rag and bone man, Adele, Badly drawn Boy, etc [please free me from any need to do research]....Gorniad says 'flares' coming back in fashion (surely this means for reasons of body balance/equilibrium that long hair must come back too)....obviously this is a badly drawn article (which I didn't read much of) as it (it may be rascist) as it ignore the posse or the crew....groups were surpassed by bands, tallying people talent and without talent....soon they may tally by bedroom ....inhabitant....etc etc blaa blaa

[Dave2002]

....may be that no body likes the noise of rehearsing bands any more.....certainly the dirty, dusty, cold and dismal buildings i rehearsed in are now grannyflats, up market cheese makers and some flattened for carparking.

We once had a neighbour who was a recording engineer. He modified his garage and put a drum kit and various other recording equipment in there. Sometimes he would practice and presumably make recordings.

We didn't really mind, but it was VERY loud (even in our house ...), and on occasions after that I would play Mahler 8 as loud as I could stand, and certainly at levels which the rest of my household would not appreciate.

[eighthobstruction]

....that is something else I wanted to say Dave....disputes ref bass and treble noise likely to have gone down these times [possibly even noise related deaths] . In 70's everyone had a 25W system all competing in bedsit complexes....

Now I understand why folks then didn't like Frank Zappa or spiffs rolled with Old Holborn

[Maclintick]

In 70's everyone had a 25W system all competing in bedsit complexes....

Now I understand why folks then didn't like Frank Zappa or spiffs rolled with Old Holborn

25 Watts !! luxury...For those of us in cardboard boxes on motorway reservations it were !0+10 W Rogers Cadet 3, Pioneer PL 12-D, Shure M75E & Wharfedale Dentons... We survived on Freak Out, Burnt Weenie Sandwich, Hot Rats, & smoked Woodies...

[cloughie]

25 Watts !! luxury...For those of us in cardboard boxes on motorway reservations it were !0+10 W Rogers Cadet 3, Pioneer PL 12-D, Shure M75E & Wharfedale Dentons... We survived on Freak Out, Burnt Weenie Sandwich, Hot Rats, & smoked Woodies...

Late 60s was a Teleton SAQ203, a Garrard SP25 and home built speakers!, Unhalfbricking, Stand Up and On the Threshold of a Dream

[Maclintick]

Late 60s was a Teleton SAQ203, a Garrard SP25 and home built speakers!, Unhalfbricking, Stand Up and On the Threshold of a Dream

Garrard SP25 -- a great deck ! I do recall Teleton products but never possessed any, & negotiated the home-built-speakers phase with an Eagle amp (pre-Rogers)

[Katzelmacher]

Nobody really needs to listen to any rock-type music post-1980. All you’ll hear is the sound of old ideas, reheated.

[cloughie]

Nobody really needs to listen to any rock-type music post-1980. All you’ll hear is the sound of old ideas, reheated.

Probably around 1975 really!

[jayne lee wilson]

Nobody really needs to listen to any rock-type music post-1980. All you’ll hear is the sound of old ideas, reheated.

Depends on what you mean by "rock-type" doesn't it?
The 80s (or the first 5 years at least) were the second Great Chart Pop decade (after the 60s)...

Post-Punk, New Wave and Art Rock (e.g. The Cars' Heartbeat City) Soft Rock...Indie as originally conceived..... Rap kept having a love/hate affair with metal (see Run-D.M.C/Aerosmith's "walk this way")...
Dance music and electro, trance and trip-hop (the glorious rap-and-reggae-etc inventions of Massive Attack)...... many innovations among genres that tend to bleed into one another and cross-influence.... at times, everything seemed to meet in.....Prince.
Was there ever a greater synthesis of Popular Musical style and innovation than Sign of the Times (1987 et seq...)?

Primal Scream began as an indie-rock band, but their classic Screamadelica (1991) has been described by Rob Hughes as " a glorious starburst of acid house, psychedelia, dub, funk and old-school rock’n’roll".....

So where does Rock end and Pop begin etc..... or the other way round....
Doesn't it all continuously evolve under multiple influences...?

[eighthobstruction]

Nobody really needs to listen to any rock-type music post-1980. All you’ll hear is the sound of old ideas, reheated.

....nobody needs to listen to the swish of a wide yard brush or even one of those towel type brushes with the hinge in the middle....much of the stuff pre-1980 was pretty hey ho ....now if we can get into specifics rather than notional reheated cliches........no I'm not playing....bigger fish to fry ; bed....

....I had a rather sleek snazzy Yamaha deck/+Pioneer everything else [eventually]....I too started with Eagle Amp....