James Levine (1943-2021)
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Originally posted by Katzelmacher View Posthttps://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...521.html%3famp
Some are expressing surprise that the Met hasn’t put anything on its site. I wonder that such naivety is still possible in 2021.
"I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest
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I'm sad that he has passed on, and before I was aware of problems relating to him - only a few years ago - I thought he was a pretty good conductor and musician, which he probably was.
That is not to say that I condone the non musical activities he was pursuing. Those should have been addressed long ago. He clearly damaged quite a few people, and I'm sad for them too.
The Met seems to have been content to let things go for far too long, and indeed the update on the Met web site does not give the feeling that much has changed.
JL RIP
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Opinions about Levine tend to be divided, depending on which side of the Atlantic you live. He was undoubtedly highly competent, knew his job as thoroughly as anyone, and gave reliable performances for Met audiences. But I never heard him conduct anything that made me re-think a piece, or even particularly excite me. I saw him a couple of times. The last was Berlioz's Faust with the BSO and a well past his sell-by-date Jose Van Dam at the Proms. It was a solid, well-played performance.
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Originally posted by LHC View PostIt has now
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Reading comments from Americans, it seems quite a few people over there are prepared to overlook his ‘extra-curricular’ activities and focus instead on his ‘lifetime’s work’ of improving the Met orchestra.
A couple of recordings aside, I was never convinced by his interpretations of Wagner, which struck me as ponderous and slow for the sake of being slow.
The Met’s policy since 2018 seems to have been to carry on as if Levine never happened - which is astonishing when you consider how long he was there for, but hardly surprising since Gelb and the board almost certainly knew what was going on yet chose to ignore it. Clearly an organisation without a moral compass, given that they are still not paying their orchestra.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostI would say as a member of the human race he was deficient. As a conductor he made several excellent recordings.
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostWell, they had to say something about his musical achievements as some kind of lame excuse for not having dealt with him many years before they did. The first I heard about his monstrous behaviour was in the 1980s, from someone fairly high up at Radio 3, and yet the Met didn't sack him until 2018, which is a major scandal as we've said here before.
Some of his recordings were really good, including a Mahler 1, a Brahms 1, and I think also some Schumann symphonies. Such a shame about the other business.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostI would say as a member of the human race he was deficient. As a conductor he made several excellent recordings.Last edited by Stanfordian; 18-03-21, 09:21.
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Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
On his recordings one I particularly liked has not been on CD, at least not internationally, his Petrouchka with CSO in the 70s on RCA.
His Mahler is good also. 1 & 4 on LP were if I recall correctly issued on mid price and well received.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostHis Mahler is good also. 1 & 4 on LP were if I recall correctly issued on mid price and well received.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostWell that was fairly frank, Pulc.
On his recordings one I particularly liked has not been on CD, at least not internationally, his Petrouchka with CSO in the 70s on RCA.
His Mahler is good also. 1 & 4 on LP were if I recall correctly issued on mid price and well received.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-T...elease/4199454
I saw him conduct a Mahler 3 at the RFH with Christa Ludwig as the soloist in the 80s, and also saw some of his performances at the Met, where he was, I thought, unhealthily idolised by the NY audience. The Times Obit very closely matches my own feelings about him, both as a conductor and as a person."I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest
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