Rattle To Leave LSO?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Not looking to make friends here, but I've removed 24 (definitely a record) off-topic posts. Please try to keep on topic, without diverging into general politics, numbers of marriages, etc.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Not looking to make friends here, but I've removed 24 (definitely a record) off-topic posts. Please try to keep on topic, without diverging into general politics, numbers of marriages, etc.

Once saw Rattle conduct Le Nozze Di Figaro at Glyndebourne - a tale of a serial adulterer etc etc -
He conducted it brilliantly .....
And that’s what matters isn’t it ?

[Alison]

I’d give Robin Ticciati my vote for LSO job.

[ahinton]

Not looking to make friends here, but I've removed 24 (definitely a record) off-topic posts. Please try to keep on topic, without diverging into general politics, numbers of marriages, etc.

More to go, though?...

[Leinster Lass]

I'll take this from you, my dear, but from anyone else.....!! The acid invective awaits....
Oh, you got off lightly here.....

And as I said......
If MGT (very unwisely!) left the CBSO for the LSO as Lebrecht suggested (you will note his moralising self-contradiction), would she then receive similar censure on this thread

Anyway, exhausted after the trek to the far woods.....and not a clue what to eat or drink..... I guess soup is the usual answer....

Why should I miss all the fun?

[Pulcinella]

Guardian opinion article here:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/13/simon-rattle-leaving-london-taste-future-concert-hall

(Apologies if already posted: I've not been following the thread, but thought that this might be of interest.)

[french frank]

He conducted it brilliantly .....
And that’s what matters isn’t it ?

It's what's of prime interest to the audience/listener undoubtedly, and managements probably take their lead from that (need to pull in the audiences), whatever their reservations. Though it's arguable whether any connection between him and the count gave him an advantage over any other conductor! There are other characters in the story besides the count.

[Leinster Lass]

His appointment was front-page news - with large photo - in yesterday's Suddeutsche Zeitung, with the headline 'Endlich kommt der Meister' and the comment that a wonderful love affair has now been legalised.

[Cockney Sparrow]

Not looking to make friends here, but I've removed 24 (definitely a record) off-topic posts. Please try to keep on topic, without diverging into general politics, numbers of marriages, etc.

If OT posts are going to be removed, editing threads will absorb a fair amount of time??

[Ein Heldenleben]

It's what's of prime interest to the audience/listener undoubtedly, and managements probably take their lead from that (need to pull in the audiences), whatever their reservations. Though it's arguable whether any connection between him and the count gave him an advantage over any other conductor! There are other characters in the story besides the count.

At the risk of getting into deep water - isn’t experience of human frailties quite useful in both writing probably the greatest opera on human relations and indeed conducting it? Just been reading Solomon’s biography of Mozart . He clearly had a period of straying - doesn’t that make him more human and an (even) greater musico- dramatist?

[jayne lee wilson]

At the risk of getting into deep water - isn’t experience of human frailties quite useful in both writing probably the greatest opera on human relations and indeed conducting it? Just been reading Solomon’s biography of Mozart . He clearly had a period of straying - doesn’t that make him more human and an (even) greater musico- dramatist?

Absolutely... .... but, despite a few startling exceptions (genius knows no rules or conventions) I think it applies to all Art, in its creation and and performance, and conductors do tend to improve with age and experience..(not only of the music)....

[cloughie]

Absolutely... .... but, despite a few startling exceptions (genius knows no rules or conventions) I think it applies to all Art, in its creation and and performance, and conductors do tend to improve with age and experience..(not only of the music)....

I think once again this thread is straying into area it shouldn’t.

[Leinster Lass]

At the risk of getting into deep water - isn’t experience of human frailties quite useful in both writing probably the greatest opera on human relations and indeed conducting it? Just been reading Solomon’s biography of Mozart . He clearly had a period of straying - doesn’t that make him more human and an (even) greater musico- dramatist?

I would say so! Beethoven wasn't always that straightforward in his dealings with other people, was he?

[Ein Heldenleben]

I think once again this thread is straying into area it shouldn’t.

What a discussion about the relationship between an artist’s life and his creative work ?

[Maclintick]

Guardian opinion article here:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/13/simon-rattle-leaving-london-taste-future-concert-hall

(Apologies if already posted: I've not been following the thread, but thought that this might be of interest.)

Thanks, Pulcie. Charlotte Higgins' article is a rattling good yarn -- reminding readers of the background to SR's initial appointment -- fanfares & much hullabaloo, huzzahs from the capital's arts panjandrums over the vanity project of a new concert hall, and giving his reasons for leaving...she doesn't mention the marriages, which will please Alpie. Perhaps this article CH quotes should have a separate thread...it may have one already of course...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/10/musicians-hit-out-after-report-uk-rejected-visa-free-eu-travel