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  • gurnemanz
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7381

    #31
    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    If Slonimsky is new to you as a composer, I do hope you are at least familiar with his Lexicon of Musical Invective. A small tome which should be in every Radio 3 Forum contributors' book collection.
    Thanks for tip.

    PS Just ordered.

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    • Ein Heldenleben
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      • Apr 2014
      • 6754

      #32
      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      If Slonimsky is new to you as a composer, I do hope you are at least familiar with his Lexicon of Musical Invective. A small tome which should be in every Radio 3 Forum contributors' book collection. Slonimskywas also a friend of Frank Zappa and, indeed, performed with him in at least one concert.
      A great book indeed . Andre Previn used to give it to people as a Xmas present . It really shows the problem with an instinctive first response to a work of art like this critic quoted in the book :
      “Tschaikovsky’s First Piano Concerto , like the first pancake , is a flop.”

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      • LHC
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1555

        #33
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        If Slonimsky is new to you as a composer, I do hope you are at least familiar with his Lexicon of Musical Invective. A small tome which should be in every Radio 3 Forum contributors' book collection. Slonimskywas also a friend of Frank Zappa and, indeed, performed with him in at least one concert.
        He was also a friend of John Adams, who wrote the piece Slonimsky's Earbox as a tribute to him after his death in 1996. Adams described Slonimsky as "a character of mind-boggling ability", and said that Slonimsky's Earbox was intended to "memorialize his wit and hyper-energetic activity." I saw it performed by the LSO with Adam’s conducting in 2007.
        "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
        Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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        • Joseph K
          Banned
          • Oct 2017
          • 7765

          #34
          Slonimsky's Thesaurus was a vade mecum of John Coltrane.

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #35
            Originally posted by LHC View Post
            He was also a friend of John Adams, who wrote the piece Slonimsky's Earbox as a tribute to him after his death in 1996. Adams described Slonimsky as "a character of mind-boggling ability", and said that Slonimsky's Earbox was intended to "memorialize his wit and hyper-energetic activity." I saw it performed by the LSO with Adam’s conducting in 2007.
            It was his interest in Slonimsky's Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns which stimulated Zappa to phone him and thus start their friendship.

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22115

              #36
              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              It was his interest in Slonimsky's Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns which stimulated Zappa to phone him and thus start their friendship.
              I see Slonimsky’s co-author is Peter Schickele aka PDQ Bach.

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #37
                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                I see Slonimsky’s co-author is Peter Schickele aka PDQ Bach.
                I think you will find that Schickele's sole contribution is the forward to some later editions.

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                • Edgy 2
                  Guest
                  • Jan 2019
                  • 2035

                  #38
                  Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                  Could go along with all except the last two. I love classical song as a genre whether Lied, mélodie, English song, Czech/Russian pesni. Poetry+piano+human voice is surely a miraculous concoction. Lunchtime recitals are frequently the highlight of a Radio 3 day for me. Tomorrow's live Wigmore session looks especially enticing: "New Generation Artist Ema Nikolovska with pianist Malcolm Martineau, including songs by Schubert, Dvorak, Britten and Lili Boulanger" Fascinatingly also some songs from composers entirely new to me: Vítězslava Kaprálová, Ana Sokolovič, Nicolas Slonimsky. Can't wait. No doubt also live video stream - spoilt rotten.


                  English song yes, all the others a no no for me,a bit odd I know
                  “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                  • gradus
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5604

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post


                    English song yes, all the others a no no for me,a bit odd I know
                    I'd hoped she'd sing all of the Charm of Lullabies but only two were performed albeit very well indeed. No disadvantage having the great Mr Martineau as accompanist.

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                    • Karafan
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 786

                      #40
                      Yes, indeed and when Karajan was invited to conduct in 1987 he spent many months studying the scores, declaring it far from the whimsical oeuvre some people claim it to be.
                      "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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