Electronic Music

[cloughie]

Brilliant!!!

You ain’t heard nothing yet!

[Richard Barrett]

You ain’t heard nothing yet!

Even better!

[Joseph K]

Current listening:

François Bayle - Erosphère

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5375I5LXt1I

Enjoying this more than I can recall doing Toupie dans le ciel (which I know Erosphère contains).

And I find the description beneath the video interesting - especially in its comparison/analogy with Max Ernst.

[Bryn]

Current listening:

François Bayle - Erosphère

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5375I5LXt1I

Enjoying this more than I can recall doing Toupie dans le ciel (which I know Erosphère contains).

And I find the description beneath the video interesting - especially in its comparison/analogy with Max Ernst.

https://www.qobuz.com/FR-fr/info/MAGAZINE-ACTUALITES/RENCONTRES/Francois-Bayle-une-video-podcast173348

[Boilk]

Current listening:
François Bayle - Erosphère...Enjoying this more than I can recall doing Toupie dans le ciel (which I know Erosphère contains).

For me, Bayle's big late-70s/early-80s pieces (i.e. Erosphère, Son-Vitesse-Lumière) represent the absolute apex of pre-digital era acousmatic music, French or otherwise.

Erosphère has appeared in various versions/mixes but I believe the original scheme was as follows:

La fin du bruit 26'
Tremblement de terre très doux 28'
Toupie dans le ciel 22'

Each of the above having a short prelude, respectively as follows:
Eros bleu 5' / Eros rouge 6' / Eros noir 6'

The three preludes were composed last.

I remember being bowled over in the 1980s by a Radio 3 broadcast of Voyage Au Centre De La Tête (on YouTube partitioned over several videos) which is from Son-Vitesse-Lumière.

[Joseph K]

Thanks for the info, Boilk.

[Richard Barrett]

For me, Bayle's big late-70s/early-80s pieces (i.e. Erosphère, Son-Vitesse-Lumière) represent the absolute apex of pre-digital era acousmatic music, French or otherwise.

Eros bleu, rouge & noir sound to me very much like early digital music, but yes, those big pieces are landmarks in the music that I keep coming back to. Actually the GRM people in general (not just Bayle himself but also Parmegiani, Xenakis and others) made the analogue-to-digital transition much more smoothly than many of their counterparts, especially Stockhausen, who abandoned electronic music pretty much altogether in the 1980s and returned in Oktophonie with what's arguably a much less searching use of the medium than in his previous work. I think some of Bayle's later pieces like Motion-Emotion, Couleurs de la nuit and Théâtre d'ombres are up there with the ones you mention. But then the GRMTools software he used was developed in consultation with him so that's not so surprising.

[Quarky]

Yes, Francois Bayle - very light melodic touch - still a lot of listening to do.....

Actually, I'm finding this thread, together with Wikipedia, the best resource for History of Electronic Music, and what's currently going on.

Searching for books, articles, everything seems to have been swamped since the 2000's by electronic dance music, djs, electronica, and all their sub-genres. The early history is well dealt with, but getting to the current day, the authors tend to dive off into popular music.

[Serial_Apologist]

Yes, Francois Bayle - very light melodic touch - still a lot of listening to do.....

Actually, I'm finding this thread, together with Wikipedia, the best resource for History of Electronic Music, and what's currently going on.

Searching for books, articles, everything seems to have been swamped since the 2000's by electronic dance music, djs, electronica, and all their sub-genres. The early history is well dealt with, but getting to the current day, the authors tend to dive off into popular music.

Or so-called Sonic Art - though I don't actually know if this declared "new" art form is now coming to swamp books and articles. If "sonic art" is a new or newish genre, it often seems to merge with musique concrète, while perhaps, I don't know, tending more to naturalism and the raw state field recording?

[Richard Barrett]

Searching for books, articles, everything seems to have been swamped since the 2000's by electronic dance music, djs, electronica, and all their sub-genres. The early history is well dealt with, but getting to the current day, the authors tend to dive off into popular music.

That's true, there are very few sources of information on "non-idiomatic" electronic music in the 21st century. This https://www.emdoku.de/en might be an interesting resource for you.

[Quarky]

That's true, there are very few sources of information on "non-idiomatic" electronic music in the 21st century. This https://www.emdoku.de/en might be an interesting resource for you.

Many thanks Richard. Wow! That's quite a resource. Very extensive. Taking your entry as an example, https://www.emdoku.de/en/artist/barrett-richard, I can't imagine that the interested person would need to know anything more.

[Dave2002]

That's true, there are very few sources of information on "non-idiomatic" electronic music in the 21st century. This https://www.emdoku.de/en might be an interesting resource for you.

An interesting resource indeed. That plus search engines and Youtube - so put in "Grisey", and find a short bio about Gérard Grisey and a list of works (no links). However internet search engines come to the rescue - put in Echanges (as an example) - et voici - https://youtu.be/3b5CF5sNHS4

Clearly there might be many starting points - that resource seems very comprehensive. Not all the music will be electronic, but much of it is "experimental" in various ways.

[Mandryka]

Christopher Fox wrote an electronic piece called Zone, it has been performed by Apartment House, there's no commercially available recording but I have a bootleg. I like it very much.

Anyway, just randomly looking at what Google threw up about it, I found this article which had, for me, an irresistible-to-click title, Music for a Dis-Uniting Kingdom?

https://journalofmusic.com/focus/music-dis-uniting-kingdom

so I clicked and found a reference to a musician whose music I hadn't explored before, Matthew Wright. And Spotify led me to this -- I love it!

[Mandryka]

Just getting into Luc Ferrari - Presque Rien nr. 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C6XlF_2VrQ

I can understand French well and I think it really helps! If you can understand French, then possibly you will enjoy this

[Serial_Apologist]

I can understand French well and I think it really helps! If you can understand French, then possibly you will enjoy this

It has legs, so I am sure I would!