Electronic Music

[Joseph K]

Yes, I am most grateful for your bringing our attention to Eloy a while back, so I kept the youtube links, both of which are still there for anyone interested:

Gatu-No-Michi (1978):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD4_FZyFNSE

I clicked this link and discovered that I had in fact already 'liked' it! Perhaps someone mentioned it on r3ok years ago.

[Dave2002]

You might be able to find a few more if you search for "Jean Claude Eloy Spotify" or "Jean Claude Eloy Napster" etc. Substitute the streaming service of your choice and see what comes up.

[Quarky]

You might be able to find a few more if you search for "Jean Claude Eloy Spotify" or "Jean Claude Eloy Napster" etc. Substitute the streaming service of your choice and see what comes up.

Thanks Dave - Spotify and Qobuz do acknowledge the existence of this composer, but nothing on the composition in issue. YouTube the best bet so far.

[Joseph K]

Current listening:

[Boilk]

Now listening (probably in my top-5 electroacoustic classics)

[Joseph K]

Definitely check this out ........ especially if you also like 60s Psychedelic music, too

Spinning now via youtube.

[Richard Barrett]

Luc Ferrari's output is a bit of a sprawl, but certainly Hétérozygote is one of the pieces that stands out. And Toupie dans le ciel too, mind you I think it also gains from being heard in the context of the whole Erosphère cycle it comes from, most of whose components share material but emhasise it in different ways. from documentary to hallucinatory.

I'm waiting for a chance to spend two hours without distractions in order to spend them with Stockhausen's Hymnen, another of the highlights of electronic music, along with other works by KS of course, although this one has always had the strongest effect on me, being something of the size of a Mahler symphony and with comparable expressive breadth but realised so idiomatically in terms of a radically different medium.

[Dave2002]

I don't know that particular work by KS. Perhaps the one I know best is Zyklus (not electronic), but this page suggests more works by Stockhausen which are worth investigating - https://www.classical-music.com/feat...s-stockhausen/ I suspect you know them all - but I'm linking to it here for the benefit of others who may be less familiar with the works of KS. He obviously was a very creative musical force.

[Richard Barrett]

I don't know that particular work by KS. Perhaps the one I know best is Zyklus (not electronic), but this page suggests more works by Stockhausen which are worth investigating - https://www.classical-music.com/feat...s-stockhausen/ I suspect you know them all - but I'm linking to it here for the benefit of others who may be less familiar with the works of KS. He obviously was a very creative musical force.

For me personally, Stockhausen was one of the handful of really great composers of the 20th century. But the page you've linked to seems to have been written by someone who has little knowledge of or interest in his music. The early Sonatina is by no means a characteristic work, Klavierstück XI (misspelled on that page) wouldn't generally be regarded as one of his most approachable or attractive pieces, and the same could be said with the best will in the world about the Helicopter Quartet. But I suspect the author of that article didn't have the best will in the world, quite apart from having only a hazy idea of what he/she is on about - for example Gruppen isn't written for three orchestras of 109 players each but for three orchestras which add up to 109 players, that is to say a largish normal orchestra split into three; the "outcome" of performing it is very much not "up to chance" as anyone who's heard more than one performance can easily hear. And so on. The BBC should be embarrassed to be hosting such rubbish.

[Joseph K]

Now listening (probably in my top-5 electroacoustic classics)

About half-way through now.

It's ok though I'm not generally minimalist-inclined...

[Quarky]

I'm waiting for a chance to spend two hours without distractions in order to spend them with Stockhausen's Hymnen, another of the highlights of electronic music, along with other works by KS of course, although this one has always had the strongest effect on me, being something of the size of a Mahler symphony and with comparable expressive breadth but realised so idiomatically in terms of a radically different medium.

Been giving this some air - time for a couple of days. I was surprised to find I was already partly familiar with it; I had a Stockhausen immersion phase when a student many, many moons ago.

However to really get to grips with the music requires a great deal of intense concentration on my part; I'm just taking it in small doses!

[Dave2002]

For me personally, Stockhausen was one of the handful of really great composers of the 20th century. But the page you've linked to seems to have been written by someone who has little knowledge of or interest in his music.

You may be right, but the webpage does have links to a handful of performances which might bring the work of KS to other people's attention, and then they can make their own minds up as to whether to pursue it further. Decrying it as a possibly useful (if only for the wrong reasons) source is hardly going to encourage others, except perhaps for the contrarians amongst us.

[Bryn]

Been giving this some air - time for a couple of days. I was surprised to find I was already partly familiar with it; I had a Stockhausen immersion phase when a student many, many moons ago.

However to really get to grips with the music requires a great deal of intense concentration on my part; I'm just taking it in small doses!

I recall the double LP album was to be found on many an unexpected shelf, in with the prog-rock et al.

[Richard Barrett]

Decrying it as a possibly useful (if only for the wrong reasons) source is hardly going to encourage others

Using it as a source isn't going to encourage others either, I think - the examples are clearly chosen for their "wow, what a weirdo" qualities, not for whatever musical interest they might have for anyone, quite apart from all the inaccuracy. Again: it's the BBC ffs. Any of their actual contemporary music producers could come up with something better in half a hour.

[Dave2002]

OK - so can you give us a worthwhile list in ten minutes then? That would save the BBC the bother. Or alternatively suggest that the current contemporary music producers do as you suggest. Right now many people might be very prepared to just give KS a complete miss, if finding representative works to entice people to listen to his music is so problematic. I doubt that many people would be unduly worried, but let's assume that KS really is/was an artist worth hearing and knowing about. In that case there would have to be some persuasion I think to get more people to listen.