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  • Belgrove
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 941

    Cosmic Island Discs

    Voyager 1 has left the influence of the solar system and was the first man made object to enter interstellar space in 2012. It’s heading towards the obscure constellation of Ophiuchus, where inquisitive creatures may sample (in about 42020) the music included on a gold plated disc, listed below.

    No doubt it’s an impossible task to sum up the aural tradition of humanity, especially given the bandwidth and durability of the carrying medium available in 1977 (but no Tuvan throat singing!) Bach seems to get a fair crack of the cultural whip.

    Were a new Voyager to be launched tomorrow, are there obvious inclusions you would make? Just for fun, of course.

    * Bach, Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 in F. First Movement, Munich Bach Orchestra, Karl Richter, conductor. 4:40
    * Java, court gamelan, "Kinds of Flowers," recorded by Robert Brown. 4:43
    * Senegal, percussion, recorded by Charles Duvelle. 2:08
    * Zaire, Pygmy girls' initiation song, recorded by Colin Turnbull. 0:56
    * Australia, Aborigine songs, "Morning Star" and "Devil Bird," recorded by Sandra LeBrun Holmes. 1:26
    * Mexico, "El Cascabel," performed by Lorenzo Barcelata and the Mariachi México. 3:14
    * "Johnny B. Goode," written and performed by Chuck Berry. 2:38
    * New Guinea, men's house song, recorded by Robert MacLennan. 1:20
    * Japan, shakuhachi, "Tsuru No Sugomori" ("Crane's Nest,") performed by Goro Yamaguchi. 4:51
    * Bach, "Gavotte en rondeaux" from the Partita No. 3 in E major for Violin, performed by Arthur Grumiaux. 2:55
    * Mozart, The Magic Flute, Queen of the Night aria, no. 14. Edda Moser, soprano. Bavarian State Opera, Munich, Wolfgang Sawallisch, conductor. 2:55
    * Georgian S.S.R., chorus, "Tchakrulo," collected by Radio Moscow. 2:18
    * Peru, panpipes and drum, collected by Casa de la Cultura, Lima. 0:52
    * "Melancholy Blues," performed by Louis Armstrong and his Hot Seven. 3:05
    * Azerbaijan S.S.R., bagpipes, recorded by Radio Moscow. 2:30
    * Stravinsky, Rite of Spring, Sacrificial Dance, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Igor Stravinsky, conductor. 4:35
    * Bach, The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 2, Prelude and Fugue in C, No.1. Glenn Gould, piano. 4:48
    * Beethoven, Fifth Symphony, First Movement, the Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer, conductor. 7:20
    * Bulgaria, "Izlel je Delyo Hagdutin," sung by Valya Balkanska. 4:59
    * Navajo Indians, Night Chant, recorded by Willard Rhodes. 0:57
    * Holborne, Paueans, Galliards, Almains and Other Short Aeirs, "The Fairie Round," performed by David Munrow and the Early Music Consort of London. 1:17
    * Solomon Islands, panpipes, collected by the Solomon Islands Broadcasting Service. 1:12
    * Peru, wedding song, recorded by John Cohen. 0:38
    * China, ch'in, "Flowing Streams," performed by Kuan P'ing-hu. 7:37
    * India, raga, "Jaat Kahan Ho," sung by Surshri Kesar Bai Kerkar. 3:30
    * "Dark Was the Night," written and performed by Blind Willie Johnson. 3:15
    * Beethoven, String Quartet No. 13 in B flat, Opus 130, Cavatina, performed by Budapest String Quartet. 6:37
  • LMcD
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    • Sep 2017
    • 8487

    #2
    Perhaps you could add Simon Procter's concerto for serpent, and Bax's 'November Woods'?

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    • Dave2002
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 18023

      #3
      Duke Ellington: Caravan
      Cantigas de Santa Maria
      Troubadour songs
      Medieval music - various
      Masses by Dufay, Binchois etc.
      Examples of 20th century "folk" music - e.g. Joan Baez
      Schoenberg: Verklärte Nacht
      Examples of earlier folk music
      Monteverdi: Vespers, Orfeo etc
      21st century EDM examples
      Examples of synthesiser music
      DSOTM

      I assume that the list in msg 1 is what was actually blasted into space.

      A bit of a forlorn hope really that any entity will ever "read" that again.

      What kind of medium would be used nowadays? A USB stick?

      At least a disc would have some form of structure which could perhaps be decoded.
      Last edited by Dave2002; 22-08-20, 05:07.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30318

        #4
        Originally posted by Belgrove View Post
        Were a new Voyager to be launched tomorrow, are there obvious inclusions you would make? Just for fun, of course.
        L.Mozart, Concerto for hosepipe
        G. Ligeti, Poème symphonique for 100 metronomes
        M. Arnold, A Grand, Grand Overture, for 3 vacuum cleaners, 1 floor polisher, 4 rifles and orchestra
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          #5
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          L.Mozart, Concerto for hosepipe
          G. Ligeti, Poème symphonique for 100 metronomes
          M. Arnold, A Grand, Grand Overture, for 3 vacuum cleaners, 1 floor polisher, 4 rifles and orchestra


          You’ll be asking for ‘Let’s Fake an Opera’ and ‘Horrortorio’ next.

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          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 10959

            #6
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post


            You’ll be asking for ‘Let’s Fake an Opera’ and ‘Horrortorio’ next.
            I misread the thread title as Comic Island Discs.

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22128

              #7
              Pink Floyd - Interstellar Overdrive
              Fleetwood Mac - Albatross
              Copland - Hoedown

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              • Pulcinella
                Host
                • Feb 2014
                • 10959

                #8
                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                Pink Floyd - Interstellar Overdrive
                Fleetwood Mac - Albatross
                Copland - Hoedown
                Isn't it a bit cruel to inflict that on other civilisations?


                (Not serious! I happen to like it, though I imagine perhaps not quite as often as R3 thinks I might, and not in abstraction: the other episodes deserve a spin too.)

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22128

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Isn't it a bit cruel to inflict that on other civilisations?


                  (Not serious! I happen to like it, though I imagine perhaps not quite as often as R3 thinks I might, and not in abstraction: the other episodes deserve a spin too.)
                  I only put it there for the cringe factor it evokes with some forumistas - but I do quite like it too! But then I don’t like to fight so I’ll get my big hat!

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                  • Belgrove
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 941

                    #10
                    I wonder what the Ophiuchians would make of 4’33”?

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8487

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Belgrove View Post
                      I wonder what the Ophiuchians would make of 4’33”?
                      They'd probably book an appointment for a hearing test with their equivalent of SpecSavers.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22128

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Belgrove View Post
                        I wonder what the Ophiuchians would make of 4’33”?
                        Possibly a waste of Space!

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                        • LMcD
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8487

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          Possibly a waste of Space!
                          As has probably been pointed out before, 4'33" of silence can be expressed as - 273 seconds, a period of time during which what happens is absolute zero.

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                          • Dave2002
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18023

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            Possibly a waste of Space!
                            Not if suitably encoded!

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                            • Pulcinella
                              Host
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 10959

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                              Not if suitably encoded!
                              And surely it would take up less space if it was zipped up too, but then the recipient might need the unzipping code too.

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