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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #31
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    And much of the above discussion has been around issues connected to how arts businesses are going to successfully reopen.
    I wasn't objecting to any of that

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    • Nevilevelis

      #32
      I just saw a young orchestral musician on BBC Breakfast. The interview was depressingly short on insight and understanding from the BBC side.

      Q. "You are all used to sitting close together aren't you?"

      A. "Yes, but that's not unique to my profession!" accompanied by a look of annoyance.

      As a freelance singer who worked in one of London's largest theatres, I don't expect to be working any time soon, and if this is the level of discussion, I wonder if I ever will again. OK, I wouldn't really expect any better from TV news, but even the leaders in our field seem paralysed and the government is still in exam crisis mode. Every day is like a living nightmare.

      NVV.

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      • MrGongGong
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        • Nov 2010
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        #33

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        • teamsaint
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          • Nov 2010
          • 25234

          #34
          Well the minister for culture is at least talking a good( ish) game. Worth a read.



          Lets hope he turns out to have something about him.
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • MrGongGong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #35
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            Well the minister for culture is at least talking a good( ish) game. Worth a read.



            Lets hope he turns out to have something about him.
            His tastes are very English but heartfelt. He says he loves the visual arts, especially Francis Bacon. He stops to explore medieval churches when driving through England. He likes reading poetry — Philip Larkin and John Betjeman. Musically he likes Elgar, Mahler and Wagner.

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            • teamsaint
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              • Nov 2010
              • 25234

              #36
              He is a tory minister. Probably best to manage expectations. At least he isnt one of the Eton mob.
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #37
                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                He is a tory minister. Probably best to manage expectations. At least he isnt one of the Eton mob.
                "Mange" expectations
                I expect lies and bullshit

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                • oddoneout
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                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9313

                  #38
                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  Well the minister for culture is at least talking a good( ish) game. Worth a read.



                  Lets hope he turns out to have something about him.
                  London, London,London. Pity there couldn't have been a smidgeon of recognition that the arts exist outside of the capital as well.

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                  • MrGongGong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #39
                    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                    London, London,London. Pity there couldn't have been a smidgeon of recognition that the arts exist outside of the capital as well.
                    As mr Loaf said (or rather sang)

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                    • vinteuil
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12964

                      #40
                      Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                      London, London,London. Pity there couldn't have been a smidgeon of recognition that the arts exist outside of the capital as well.
                      ... this was an interview with the London Evening Standard.

                      I'm sure that if it had been an interview with the Bath Chronicle or the Wiltshire Gazette and Herald he would have had different things to say...

                      .

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                      • oddoneout
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                        • Nov 2015
                        • 9313

                        #41
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... this was an interview with the London Evening Standard.

                        I'm sure that if it had been an interview with the Bath Chronicle or the Wiltshire Gazette and Herald he would have had different things to say...

                        .
                        Possibly, but it still would have been possible to make a mention, if not details, of the rest of the country surely, even in a London newspaper? In my defence I was reading the article around the greying out and screenblock of the 'give us your data' statement so some of the peripheral detail was lost...

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                        • teamsaint
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25234

                          #42
                          I almost wish I hadn’t bothered posting this.



                          *. Never voted tory, never will....
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • bluestateprommer
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3022

                            #43
                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            I almost wish I hadn’t bothered posting this.
                            Well, the issue needs to be raised, as Charlotte Higgins does here in the Grauniad:

                            Coronavirus has pushed live classical music to the edge of the abyss. But Prince Charles’s fears for the Royal Opera is the only thing making the headlines. Why aren’t the big names kicking up a fuss?


                            I mentioned in the Wigmore Hall lockdown concerts thread that I've sent a small donation to the American Friends of Wigmore Hall, in support of those concerts. If anything, I should send additional donations to UK classical music & opera groups whose content I've seen via stream during the pandemic, even though my small donations won't save those organizations. Lots of modest donations can add up, however.

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                            • bluestateprommer
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3022

                              #44
                              SSR and SME have penned an open letter, reported on today in The Guardian, regarding the current plight of UK orchestras:



                              "There are so many pressing problems to solve in the UK that it takes courage even to mention the desperate situation of classical music in the time of Covid-19.

                              There’s a real possibility of a devastated landscape on the other side of this; orchestras may not survive, and if they do, they may face insuperable obstacles to remain solvent in our new reality. What we write applies, of course, to all types of music, not just classical music which is our area of expertise. Our music is essentially a live experience and requires all the participants, performers and listeners alike, to be in the same room together. What we may do individually over the internet in these months is all well and good, but the living core of our work is a live communion, a sharing of space, art and emotion which is both vital and healing.

                              This healing will become ever more necessary in the coming time as we attempt to bear witness and understand what we have all gone through. In such an existential crisis, the realisation of our shared vulnerability will surely change and deepen our relationship to all the arts. In our own field we are asking ourselves; how can we get back to live music? How can we give our audiences the courage to gradually return?

                              More immediately, how can we maintain musical continuity when orchestras are silenced? And how do we nurture a generation of young musicians whose prospects look bleak just as they embark on a career in this ever more uncertain world?

                              The recent extension of the furlough scheme is a blessing and enables many organisations to hang on. For freelance musicians, which include four of the London orchestras among others, huge problems remain. Currently many freelancers fall between the cracks of the government’s self-employment schemes. We need to find a way to sustain some kind of backbone of income so that we will eventually be able to play whenever that will be possible. At the most basic level, despite all appearances to the contrary, musicians are humans. They need to eat and pay their bills. But we also need to play together and train, just like any sports team, albeit in a totally new environment. Crucially, this musical team is part of a complex structure that is focussed around, and serves, its home town or city.

                              We will have to reinvent the wheel in so many ways. Learning to play while remaining distanced from each other will be much harder than it may initially seem.

                              Our venues will have to learn to shepherd audiences in and out of performances in safety, and accept that at maximum only 25% capacity will be allowed, with all the economic knock on effects that this reality implies. We MUST find a way to play together soon, even without an audience, if we are to maintain anything like our normal standards, and we badly need clarity from government, a timeline, of when that might be and how it can be implemented. We understand that we cannot expect to revert to everything as it was before; we will be creative and tireless in making contingency plans and solving problems.

                              All musicians of whatever genre share the magnificent problem of an art form which is, fundamentally, songs transmitted to people in a room. When will our audiences have the chance to experience this once more?

                              We refuse to believe that live music will die, but it will not survive merely on energy and optimism. It will need support and understanding, particularly when it ventures out in public once more. The first year of performing with fewer musicians to a much smaller public will be our toughest time, and we will need a helping hand to make it through.

                              In Mainland Europe orchestras are gradually opening up and finding different ways to deal with the problems of distancing. Good practice is being built up: in the UK we must gain time by learning what has already been proved to work, rather than starting from the beginning yet again, with people not from the performing arts making the decisions. Until we have some practical idea of what our future might entail, musicians in our country will continue to feel out in the wilderness.

                              Sir Simon Rattle, OM, CBE, Music Director, London Symphony Orchestra

                              Sir Mark Elder, CH, CBE, Music Director, Hallé Orchestra"

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                              • Ein Heldenleben
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                                • Apr 2014
                                • 6978

                                #45
                                Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
                                SSR and SME have penned an open letter, reported on today in The Guardian, regarding the current plight of UK orchestras:

                                https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...-uk-conductors
                                Sir Mark has just been on In Tune on the same theme. I get emails every day from the Met, ROH, WNO , BSO and I'm under no illusions over the dire prospects for live classical music in the short term. There are a few glimmers of hope. I noticed that the youtube ROH Il Trittico (as well as being an outstanding performance) raised over $120,000 dollars - there was a live counter to one side. The opera has had 80,000 views and I see that they are about to start live relays as well. I suspect the larger institutions may well be able to get a viable income stream from relays which coupled with charitable funder support and govt money might just tide them over - but only with plenty of lay-offs. The smaller companies without a rich archive or the means to do relays have a real problem though. Even mounting an audio relay costs money - without the headache of socially disatancing the musos .

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