Sound of gaming

[Nick Armstrong]

This one, I think:

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?21248-Er

Merged now

[LeMartinPecheur]

Thought for a minute we were discussing the music(?) on all the gaming/ gambling TV ads, utter abominations, Betfred etc

[oddoneout]

Thought for a minute we were discussing the music(?) on all the gaming/ gambling TV ads, utter abominations, Betfred etc

The programme title continues to confuse...

[peterthekeys]

Merged now

ta for that

[peterthekeys]

One thing which annoys and baffles me is the cant and hyperbole. A pile of the crudest and most blatant musical wallpaper is a "classic iconic score". Reminds me of the fashion industry, where the only people who understand the terminology and appreciate the niceties are the fashionistas themselves (and the only ones who buy the results are the ones with too much money and too little sense).

[jayne lee wilson]

Many things can be iconic or classic - in their own context; film scores for example; TV adverts; pop videos.

There is a lot more to fashion, style, and the choice of how one appears to other people, than being a fashionista (I was one once, long ago in a galaxy far away...for many young women it can be as essential as - buying or listening to classical recordings, is for posters on this forum...its a global culture - another part of the village; like video games).

But Designer or Couture Fashion is too small a market to worry about very much. The problem now is ultra-budget-fashion from such as Primark which can have devastating effects on the world in various well-attested ways...rather like factory-farming.
But our current predicament may lead to many kinds of realignment, of inner life and the external world, of the things we thought we couldn't do without....

[oddoneout]

One thing which annoys and baffles me is the cant and hyperbole. A pile of the crudest and most blatant musical wallpaper is a "classic iconic score". Reminds me of the fashion industry, where the only people who understand the terminology and appreciate the niceties are the fashionistas themselves (and the only ones who buy the results are the ones with too much money and too little sense).

The 'classical' music world isn't free of cant and hyperbole, nor terminology impenetrable to 'outsiders'. As Jayne says it's about context, and also I would suggest about sifting out the worthwhile from the 'jumping on the bandwagon'. Sorting out the worthwhile is likely to involve knowledge of the field under consideration rather than just 'I know what I like/what's right'. The 'jumping on the bandwagon' aspect comes when the worthwhile becomes commercial and produced in quantity, and can happen in all areas of creative (and other) activity.
As far as I am concerned "I do not like..." is not automatically the same as "That is bad". There are composers highly thought of among forumites whose music I cannot stand, and there are music genres I don't like, but unless I have the knowledge to make an informed case I don't think my opinion is anything other than opinion.

[peterthekeys]

Turned on this afternoon, hoping for "Sound of Cinema". No joy. Here we go again.

Still can't get over the discussions with the composers about all the theory behind how and why the music is as it is - then the actual clip is just exactly the same mix of buffalo-stampede rhythms, thunderous percussion, blasting brass and wailing choirs as the last clip.

Or maybe my ears are on wrong. Maybe it's fascinating to gaming addicts. All I can say is that whenever (very infrequently) I play a video game, the first thing I do is figure out how to turn the music off.

[Richard Barrett]

the actual clip is just exactly the same mix of buffalo-stampede rhythms, thunderous percussion, blasting brass and wailing choirs as the last clip.

I don't know if you've seen a commercial film recently but that IS the "sound of cinema" these days. Hans Zimmer has a lot to answer for.

[Serial_Apologist]

The second of a 3-part series on The Sound of TV with Neil Brand was broadcast last night on BBC 4, and to some extent it dealt with some of the issues arising in the Sound of Cinema series, applying them to TV jingles and music for adverts. Whole complexes of consideration have likewise to be factored into the style and feel of such music to get "right" according to the producer's desiderata, and, while interesting, the main implication seemed to represent a view of what "works" governed by predicting expected response fulfilments to given clichés. I was surprised at the amount of detailing needing to be taken into account.

[Serial_Apologist]

Many things can be iconic or classic - in their own context; film scores for example; TV adverts; pop videos.

There is a lot more to fashion, style, and the choice of how one appears to other people, than being a fashionista (I was one once, long ago in a galaxy far away...for many young women it can be as essential as - buying or listening to classical recordings, is for posters on this forum...its a global culture - another part of the village; like video games).

But Designer or Couture Fashion is too small a market to worry about very much. The problem now is ultra-budget-fashion from such as Primark which can have devastating effects on the world in various well-attested ways...rather like factory-farming.
But our current predicament may lead to many kinds of realignment, of inner life and the external world, of the things we thought we couldn't do without....

Too true! And in the process, liberation from the burdens of cultural baggage ineluctably becomes equated with rapid turnover, and those at the top(shop) benefitting economically at the expense of those who can't afford appearance-based identity upgrades and environmental degradation as the discarded that doesn't make it to the charity shop ends up in landfill.

[oddoneout]

Turned on this afternoon, hoping for "Sound of Cinema". No joy. Here we go again.

Still can't get over the discussions with the composers about all the theory behind how and why the music is as it is - then the actual clip is just exactly the same mix of buffalo-stampede rhythms, thunderous percussion, blasting brass and wailing choirs as the last clip.

Or maybe my ears are on wrong. Maybe it's fascinating to gaming addicts. All I can say is that whenever (very infrequently) I play a video game, the first thing I do is figure out how to turn the music off.

As with film the music will follow the narrative - action games will have action music. The titles of some of the games on today's programme gives a clue to what will be heard? The age of the game has a bearing on the music as well.

[french frank]

I don't know if you've seen a commercial film recently but that IS the "sound of cinema" these days. Hans Zimmer has a lot to answer for.

Given the thread title, I thought ptk was talking about The Sound of Gaming …?