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  • cloughie
    Full Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 22115

    #46
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    Not necessarily. I just answered the question honestly and openly. I don't claim to know what composers "intended", but I'm well aware of what they had to accept at the time of composition.
    ...and surely part of the rich pageant of life and the listening of music in particular if every performance of every work was identical, assuming we know categorically what the composer’s intentions were (and many changed their minds - the Sainted Bruckner of the Forum probably). I listened to some hipp Telemann on Sarah’s Sunday Morning and it sounded dull muddy and frankly boring - but there are those who presumably like it so!

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #47
      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      ...and surely part of the rich pageant of life and the listening of music in particular if every performance of every work was identical, assuming we know categorically what the composer’s intentions were (and many changed their minds - the Sainted Bruckner of the Forum probably). I listened to some hipp Telemann on Sarah’s Sunday Morning and it sounded dull muddy and frankly boring - but there are those who presumably like it so!
      Surely there are at least as many "frankly boring" HIPP renditions as there are 'revisionist' ones of Telemann. Doc Walker's Sunday programme is the only Radio 3 morning programme I sometimes catch. I missed this one but will check out the said Telemann recording.

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #48
        I remember Donald Runnicles conducting this. He has a certain flair for the Central European repertoire.
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • greenilex
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1626

          #49
          I was somewhat startled to listen to the Chinese folk song about trees just now on Breakfast and to experience a sudden and overwhelming sense of homecoming.

          I have no Han ancestry, but my mother was born in Harbin, in the Russian exile colony there, in 1923. Odd, to say the least.

          I am trying to learn Mandarin otherwise Putonghua but it is horribly difficult.

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          • Oakapple

            #50
            If I could only listen to one composer then it would be Prokofiev. I certainly would like to see his symphonies 2, 3, 4 and 6 played more often. If people find the first movement of the 2nd too hard to stomach (somewhat relentless - a little more light and shade would have helped but not difficult compared with a lot of music written since) the theme and variations of the second movement take you on a very rewarding tour and I think it could work as a stand-alone piece.

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            • LMcD
              Full Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 8416

              #51
              Originally posted by Oakapple View Post
              If I could only listen to one composer then it would be Prokofiev. I certainly would like to see his symphonies 2, 3, 4 and 6 played more often. If people find the first movement of the 2nd too hard to stomach (somewhat relentless - a little more light and shade would have helped but not difficult compared with a lot of music written since) the theme and variations of the second movement take you on a very rewarding tour and I think it could work as a stand-alone piece.
              I happened to catch part of an episode of Pointless at breakfast time in which competitors had to name composers with certain letters, including 'e' in their names. One controversial answer offered was Provokiev.

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              • jayne lee wilson
                Banned
                • Jul 2011
                • 10711

                #52
                Originally posted by Oakapple View Post
                If I could only listen to one composer then it would be Prokofiev. I certainly would like to see his symphonies 2, 3, 4 and 6 played more often. If people find the first movement of the 2nd too hard to stomach (somewhat relentless - a little more light and shade would have helped but not difficult compared with a lot of music written since) the theme and variations of the second movement take you on a very rewarding tour and I think it could work as a stand-alone piece.
                You know the LSO/Gergiev or Bournemouth SO/Karabits? They make a fantastic success of the piece, not least by bringing out the fantastical light and shade of the opening movement - it can be overbearing but it doesn't have to be....

                My favourite Prokofiev cycles by miles - I hardly bother with any others now - but I may finally investigate the Jurowski/Pentatone 2&3 soon....IIRC HD was very impressed with it....
                Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 20-04-20, 13:47.

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                • Jonathan
                  Full Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 945

                  #53
                  Personally, somewhere in about 1840 when Liszt was concertising, Chopin was still alive, Schumann was around and Alkan was probably hiding in his appartments trying to avoid seeing anyone.
                  Best regards,
                  Jonathan

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                  • richardfinegold
                    Full Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 7657

                    #54
                    Instead of listening to my core favorite composers, I find myself exploring the nooks and crannies of my collection. Well, perhaps I have been listening to some Mahler as well...

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11671

                      #55
                      A toss up between 1780-1830 and the end of the 19th start of 20th century.

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