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  • Stanfordian
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 9314

    #31
    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    I don't know the specific details of the case that you had in mind but there have been several instances of airlines damaging instruments, especially stringed ones.
    I notice when Mischa Maisky was sat in front of me on a plane his cello was on a seat next to him. Paying for a seat is the custom now as I cant imagine any top cellist wanting to place a Stradivarius or Goffriller in the hold.

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    • ahinton
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 16123

      #32
      Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
      I notice when Mischa Maisky was sat in front of me on a plane his cello was on a seat next to him. Paying for a seat is the custom now as I cant imagine any top cellist wanting to place a Stradivarius or Goffriller in the hold.
      True, but airlines have still managed to damage violins, violas, cellos and double basses in transit and there have been quite widespread reports of this kind of thing.

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      • pastoralguy
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7760

        #33
        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
        True, but airlines have still managed to damage violins, violas, cellos and double basses in transit and there have been quite widespread reports of this kind of thing.
        Slipped Disc is the place to find heartbreaking reports of these 'incidents'!

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #34
          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
          This quote is relevant

          - yes, indeed. A good article about changes in society and treatment of animals.
          Truly shocked to read of this: https://www.nhm.ac.uk/visit/wpy/gall...the-fight.html .How on Earth can such a photograph get into, let alone win, a wildlife photography competition.

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9205

            #35
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            Truly shocked to read of this: https://www.nhm.ac.uk/visit/wpy/gall...the-fight.html .How on Earth can such a photograph get into, let alone win, a wildlife photography competition.
            The category being 'People's Choice' might have some bearing?

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #36
              Here's one from a source other than Slipped Disc:

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              • MrGongGong
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #37
                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                True, but airlines have still managed to damage violins, violas, cellos and double basses in transit and there have been quite widespread reports of this kind of thing.
                My FB is full of tales of woe from musicians who have had their instruments trashed at airports
                and there is this

                ‘Would US customs have dared to dismantle a Stradivarius?’ asked Ballaké Sissoko after harp-like kora arrived in pieces in Paris with note from TSA

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                • Stunsworth
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1553

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  Truly shocked to read of this: https://www.nhm.ac.uk/visit/wpy/gall...the-fight.html .How on Earth can such a photograph get into, let alone win, a wildlife photography competition.
                  I see it as being critical of the practice, hence its inclusion. London zoo was still holding chimps' tea parties in the 70s.
                  Steve

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                  • Stanfordian
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 9314

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Truly shocked to read of this: https://www.nhm.ac.uk/visit/wpy/gall...the-fight.html .How on Earth can such a photograph get into, let alone win, a wildlife photography competition.
                    I'm not keen on anyone dressing up animals even if it's to promote an animal welfare cause.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                      I'm not keen on anyone dressing up animals even if it's to promote an animal welfare cause.
                      I feel much the same way about dogs and horses with 'raincoats'. What particularly struck me re the photograph in question was that it could be considered to fall into a "wildlife" category. It was clearly of a domesticated/captive orangutan. How much more aposite[sic] would have been an image such as that captured here.
                      Last edited by Bryn; 13-02-20, 11:24. Reason: Typos

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                      • Oakapple

                        #41
                        George Orwell was ahead of his time. As Snowball says in Animal Farm: "Ribbons should be considered as clothes, which are the mark of a human being. All animals should go naked."

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                        • LHC
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1557

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                          I'm not keen on anyone dressing up animals even if it's to promote an animal welfare cause.
                          I think there may be some misunderstanding here. I don't think the orangutan was dressed up for the purposes of the photo or to promote animal welfare; the photo is documenting the degrading practices at Safari World in Bangkok, and the orangutan would have been dressed like that whether or not the photographer was there. It is a piece of photojournalism, and not a staged photo.

                          According to his website, the photographer "is an award-winning environmental photojournalist, film-maker and TV presenter, specialising in human-animal conflict …. [he] has spent years documenting animals in captivity and is founder and lead investigator at Raise the Red Flag, a global campaign to end cruelty in the Wildlife Tourism industry".

                          You could argue that the Wildlife photographer of Year should only feature positive images of animals in the wild, but it seems to me to be Ok to include photojournalism in the types of photos to be considered for this award.
                          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
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                            • Apr 2014
                            • 6788

                            #43
                            Originally posted by LHC View Post
                            I think there may be some misunderstanding here. I don't think the orangutan was dressed up for the purposes of the photo or to promote animal welfare; the photo is documenting the degrading practices at Safari World in Bangkok, and the orangutan would have been dressed like that whether or not the photographer was there. It is a piece of photojournalism, and not a staged photo.

                            According to his website, the photographer "is an award-winning environmental photojournalist, film-maker and TV presenter, specialising in human-animal conflict …. [he] has spent years documenting animals in captivity and is founder and lead investigator at Raise the Red Flag, a global campaign to end cruelty in the Wildlife Tourism industry".

                            You could argue that the Wildlife photographer of Year should only feature positive images of animals in the wild, but it seems to me to be Ok to include photojournalism in the types of photos to be considered for this award.
                            Yes it’s clear it’s a documentary capture of a real event rather than staged. It’s hardly going to win a wildlife award if it’s the latter. I think it’s an excellent insight into the lives of these benighted creatures that Homo Sapiens is doing his best to destroy ..

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                            • ahinton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 16123

                              #44
                              This seems now to have travelled quite a distance from Canadian pianists and devastated Italian pianos! Just sayin'...

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                #45
                                What a disaster!
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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