To identify a female pianist performing in London 1950-1960

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  • Segilla
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    • Nov 2010
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    To identify a female pianist performing in London 1950-1960

    She was around 30-40, slight, sad face, dark, not pretty. She played both sets of Brahms Paganini variations. Her name eludes but I recollect she was a second ranker, such as Maurice Cole. (Did she have a Jewish name?).
  • pastoralguy
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7759

    #2
    Originally posted by Segilla View Post
    She was around 30-40, slight, sad face, dark, not pretty. She played both sets of Brahms Paganini variations. Her name eludes but I recollect she was a second ranker, such as Maurice Cole. (Did she have a Jewish name?).
    Not Joyce Hatto?!
    Last edited by pastoralguy; 12-01-20, 16:08.

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    • Dave2002
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      • Dec 2010
      • 18021

      #3
      Originally posted by Segilla View Post
      She was around 30-40, slight, sad face, dark, not pretty. She played both sets of Brahms Paganini variations. Her name eludes but I recollect she was a second ranker, such as Maurice Cole. (Did she have a Jewish name?).
      Could it have been Livia Rev? - though I'm not sure I'd have called her a second ranker - https://www.classicalmusicdaily.com/.../livia-rev.htm and she might not have liked your description of her physiognomy.

      There is a Saga LP of her playing Liszt - Paganini related compositions.

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      • John Wright
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        • Mar 2007
        • 705

        #4
        Re: Joyce Hatto, Guardian obituary:

        ".... Her debut at Wigmore Hall was in 1954 with Liszt's Malédiction. The Guardian's Neville Cardus wrote of her (live) Brahms Paganini Variations that they were "despatched in a seamless riot of ecstatic bravura laced with underlying deep musical feeling rarely countenanced in this work".
        - - -

        John W

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        • Tevot
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          • Nov 2010
          • 1011

          #5
          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
          Not Joyce Hatto!


          You beat me to it.

          Certainly not Christina Ortiz or Yuja Wang either !

          Happy New Year everyone !

          Best Wishes,

          Tevot

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #6
            Originally posted by John Wright View Post
            Re: Joyce Hatto, Guardian obituary:

            ".... Her debut at Wigmore Hall was in 1954 with Liszt's Malédiction. The Guardian's Neville Cardus wrote of her (live) Brahms Paganini Variations that they were "despatched in a seamless riot of ecstatic bravura laced with underlying deep musical feeling rarely countenanced in this work".
            Thank you, John. It is all too easy to forget that Hatto was a fine pianist in her day. She spent her final years living in Royston, Herts (not to be confused with Royston Vasey).
            Last edited by Bryn; 12-01-20, 16:19. Reason: Update.

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            • gradus
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              • Nov 2010
              • 5609

              #7
              Shulamith Shafir?

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              • LMcD
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                • Sep 2017
                • 8472

                #8
                Originally posted by Segilla View Post
                She was around 30-40, slight, sad face, dark, not pretty. She played both sets of Brahms Paganini variations. Her name eludes but I recollect she was a second ranker, such as Maurice Cole. (Did she have a Jewish name?).
                Livia Rév would have been in her mid-30s in 1950 (she died in 2016 at the age of 101). She recorded the Brahms on the Saga label.

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                • ardcarp
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11102

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Segilla View Post
                  She was around 30-40, slight, sad face, dark, not pretty. She played both sets of Brahms Paganini variations. Her name eludes but I recollect she was a second ranker, such as Maurice Cole. (Did she have a Jewish name?).
                  Have you tried Googling British female pianists?

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                  • HighlandDougie
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3091

                    #10
                    Although most definitely not second-rate and not English (but frequently appearing in London at that time) and with the Brahms Paganini Variations very much a core part of her repertoire, Gina Bachauer?

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18021

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                      Livia Rév would have been in her mid-30s in 1950 (she died in 2016 at the age of 101). She recorded the Brahms on the Saga label.
                      I can’t find any record of Rev playing these Brahms pieces on Saga. The only one I found on Saga was by David Parkhouse.

                      https://www.discogs.com/artist/1653660-Livia-Rev Liszt

                      That doesn’t mean it wasn’t her, and maybe I’ve just not found a recording yet, but it may be a contra-indication.

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                      • LMcD
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                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8472

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                        I can’t find any record of Rev playing these Brahms pieces on Saga. The only one I found on Saga was by David Parkhouse.

                        https://www.discogs.com/artist/1653660-Livia-Rev Liszt

                        That doesn’t mean it wasn’t her, and maybe I’ve just not found a recording yet, but it may be a contra-indication.
                        My mistake - right pianist, right label but wrong composer - I must have been a bit Brahms and Liszt when I posted that message!

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                        • John Wright
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 705

                          #13
                          But original poster Segilla is recalling a live performance, not necessarily a pianist who recorded Brahms Paganini variations. So far, we have Joyce Hatto as a possibility.
                          - - -

                          John W

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                          • gradus
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5609

                            #14
                            Originally posted by John Wright View Post
                            But original poster Segilla is recalling a live performance, not necessarily a pianist who recorded Brahms Paganini variations. So far, we have Joyce Hatto as a possibility.
                            Also, Shulamith Shafir or perhaps Idil Biret?

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #15
                              Not sure if Hatto matches the "dark, not pretty" and possibly having "a Jewish name" descriptions in the OP

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