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  • Richard Barrett
    Guest
    • Jan 2016
    • 6259

    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    He's a composer... he doesn't have any money
    There's no fooling you, is there.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
      There's no fooling you, is there.
      OOOOO yes there is

      (The singing mice in this years village panto owe much to Gesang der Jünglinge and Bagpuss.... )

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      • Dave2002
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 18021

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        OOOOO yes there is

        (The singing mice in this years village panto owe much to Gesang der Jünglinge and Bagpuss.... )
        He's behind you ....

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9204

          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
          That depends on how old you are, and when you travelled. Some of us are old enough to remember not being able to take much money out of the UK, or bring money back in. Also some quite severe customs checks at borders. I was once charged on reentering the UK for a half bottle of alcohol - since we had drunk some of the bottle already while on holiday, and we were also threatened with a fine, which was IIRC "graciously" waived.

          I'm sure the customs officer was not personally involved, but "only doing his job".

          Additionally, getting money while abroad, for example in Spanish banks, used to be very tedious, and required not only queuing up at one queue, but actually queuing up twice - once to be allowed to proceed to the second queue, and then finally in order to obtain the cash.

          The more modern more cashless society may be helpful, though there may be glitches if banking is disrupted by the latest changes - which may or may not occur.

          Is someone in the UK's infrastructure going to set a "Preferences" file to "Yes" or "No" on midnight on 31st October, which will cause a massive chain reaction through all possibly affected aspects of national and also international infrastructure?
          Those were the days! I still remember my father sorting out travellers cheques for holidays in France, and also trying to make sure we had enough money to pay for petrol back to the ferry port, but as little cash as possible to bring back.
          My old passport from student days has two entries for export of currency, 1977 and 78. The latter was for a field trip to Paris and I remember people I didn't normally have much to do with suddenly wanting to be best friends when they realised I wasn't going to avail myself of my duty free allowance.

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          • gradus
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5609

            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
            That depends on how old you are, and when you travelled. Some of us are old enough to remember not being able to take much money out of the UK, or bring money back in. Also some quite severe customs checks at borders. I was once charged on reentering the UK for a half bottle of alcohol - since we had drunk some of the bottle already while on holiday, and we were also threatened with a fine, which was IIRC "graciously" waived.

            I'm sure the customs officer was not personally involved, but "only doing his job".

            Additionally, getting money while abroad, for example in Spanish banks, used to be very tedious, and required not only queuing up at one queue, but actually queuing up twice - once to be allowed to proceed to the second queue, and then finally in order to obtain the cash.

            The more modern more cashless society may be helpful, though there may be glitches if banking is disrupted by the latest changes - which may or may not occur.

            Is someone in the UK's infrastructure going to set a "Preferences" file to "Yes" or "No" on midnight on 31st October, which will cause a massive chain reaction through all possibly affected aspects of national and also international infrastructure?
            Unfortunately I do remember all of that but don't think it was all that trying. In a Greta sort of way probably quite a good thing to make tourism more difficult, if that is what happens

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              So here we are again.... two very big votes coming up..... who will show courage, independence of mind or allegiance...?

              I gotta bad feeling about this....

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18021

                Originally posted by gradus View Post
                Unfortunately I do remember all of that but don't think it was all that trying. In a Greta sort of way probably quite a good thing to make tourism more difficult, if that is what happens
                I can also remember queing up for a ferry in France, when one "plonker" from the UK said something derogatory about France and French officials. Pretty stupid really. The policeman had a gun - I can't now remember whether he took it out, but he did say something back which shut the guy up for a few moments, and we all held our breath.

                Is that something we really want to remember? Probably not - but it happened.

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                  So here we are again.... two very big votes coming up..... who will show courage, independence of mind or allegiance...?

                  I gotta bad feeling about this....
                  I heard an interview on R5 this morning with a Labour MP who was quite happy to vote for something he hadn't even read and knows will make the most vulnerable in society even worse off.

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                  • jayne lee wilson
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 10711

                    2nd vote.....Yes... Yes....some relief....
                    (Even if the double vote was, shall we say, "convenient" for the, er, "rebels"....)

                    There is still some hope now.....but what will happen... what will this rogue Johnson/Cummings admin do?

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                    • MrGongGong
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                      2nd vote.....Yes... Yes....some relief....
                      (Even if the double vote was, shall we say, "convenient" for the, er, "rebels"....)

                      There is still some hope now.....but what will happen... what will this rogue Johnson/Cummings admin do?
                      Let's hope they both end up in the ditch
                      There is some hope now indeed

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25210

                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        aaah yes the old "it worked before so we can go back to how it was in the past" argument..... good luck with that

                        Reciprocal tax arrangements ?
                        hummm even if there is a "deal" no-one (and I get this from festivals and venues in the rest of the EU) has any idea how this might work. What is likely is that folks will have to pay tax locally then try to claim it back... great if you have a large amount of capital BUT for self-employed sole traders / small organisations / small ensembles ?

                        The really boring stuff that folks with PAYE jobs never have to deal with
                        Although of course PAYE employees don't get the more generous tax reliefs that self employed people do.
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • MrGongGong
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                          Although of course PAYE employees don't get the more generous tax reliefs that self employed people do.


                          Sick pay
                          Paid holidays
                          and the rest ?

                          I'm not complaining

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                          • muzzer
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 1193

                            Indeed. What are these more generous tax reliefs for the self-employed?

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22126

                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post


                              Sick pay
                              Paid holidays
                              and the rest ?

                              I'm not complaining
                              Well you do seem to bang on a lot about people with pensions!

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                              • MrGongGong
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                                Well you do seem to bang on a lot about people with pensions!
                                Not really
                                but i'm also wondering what these "generous tax reliefs for the self-employed" are?

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