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  • Richard Barrett
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    • Jan 2016
    • 6259

    #91
    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
    Generally speaking, it's all to easy to criticise person we don't really know.
    We do on the other hand know quite a lot about the odious Gove, a catastrophic education secretary, an ideological Leaver and promulgator of the "£350 million" lie, an untrustworthy backstabber, a Trump apologist, an Iraq War supporter, and so on.

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    • Cockney Sparrow
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      • Jan 2014
      • 2286

      #92
      This might help :


      How do you tell if someone is lying? When Richard Wiseman, Professor of the Public Understanding of Psychology at the University of Hertfordshire, conducted a nationwide experiment to identify the tell-tale signs, the results were surprising. If you want to spot a liar, don’t look at them. Listen to what they say and how they say it. in If you want to distinguish fact from fiction, radio, not TV or video is your friend.

      Its still possible to do the open lips (=lying) test in audio only - a test never more relevant, and increasingly so, in these times .

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
        • 37707

        #93
        Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
        This might help :


        How do you tell if someone is lying? When Richard Wiseman, Professor of the Public Understanding of Psychology at the University of Hertfordshire, conducted a nationwide experiment to identify the tell-tale signs, the results were surprising. If you want to spot a liar, don’t look at them. Listen to what they say and how they say it. in If you want to distinguish fact from fiction, radio, not TV or video is your friend.

        Its still possible to do the open lips (=lying) test in audio only - a test never more relevant, and increasingly so, in these times .
        That's interesting, since it confirms an impression I have recently been getting from first watching interviewees on TV, then listening to what they had spoken via a radio report, which told me much more than I had gleaned from watching them speaking in the first instance. It seems almost as if one's receptivity is reduced by dividing the attention in half!

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        • Dave2002
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 18025

          #94
          Has anyone tried this yet? https://www.gov.uk/brexit?&utm_sourc...YPtw&gclsrc=ds

          I wasn’t even looking for it - simply trying to find an open bottle bank, and I was surprised that this came up in the results.

          I did follow through, and the things that might affect me include:

          Car insurance
          Health insurance
          Passport - though mine is still in date

          Not sure if I’d need an International Driving licence.

          Most of the items come up with “as soon as possible”.

          What’s not clear is how much hassle there would be going through a series of different EU countries - could be a lot, or just a modest irritation on entering/leaving the EU area.

          The alarms are, of course, in the case of a so-called “no deal Brexit”.

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          • gradus
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            • Nov 2010
            • 5612

            #95
            Before we joined continental travel wasn't difficult to most western European countries so I wouldn't be too concerned as far as holidays and car travel are concerned, unless (per GG) you work in different countries and carry instruments across borders.

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            • Richard Barrett
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              • Jan 2016
              • 6259

              #96
              Originally posted by gradus View Post
              Before we joined continental travel wasn't difficult to most western European countries so I wouldn't be too concerned as far as holidays and car travel are concerned, unless (per GG) you work in different countries and carry instruments across borders.
              Working as a musician in some EU countries (France and Italy in my experience) is already a minefield of bureaucracy; since I moved out of the EU such things have in fact become a lot easier for me, now that the dreaded A1 form no longer needs to be obtained. Just saying. Also, as Dave says, the scare stories all concern a "no deal" situation which isn't going to happen.

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #97
                Originally posted by gradus View Post
                Before we joined continental travel wasn't difficult to most western European countries so I wouldn't be too concerned as far as holidays and car travel are concerned, unless (per GG) you work in different countries and carry instruments across borders.
                aaah yes the old "it worked before so we can go back to how it was in the past" argument..... good luck with that

                Reciprocal tax arrangements ?
                hummm even if there is a "deal" no-one (and I get this from festivals and venues in the rest of the EU) has any idea how this might work. What is likely is that folks will have to pay tax locally then try to claim it back... great if you have a large amount of capital BUT for self-employed sole traders / small organisations / small ensembles ?

                The really boring stuff that folks with PAYE jobs never have to deal with

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                • Richard Barrett
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                  • Jan 2016
                  • 6259

                  #98
                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  What is likely is that folks will have to pay tax locally then try to claim it back...
                  That doesn't presently apply to me as a non-EU resident, as I mentioned before.

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                  • Dave2002
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 18025

                    #99
                    Originally posted by gradus View Post
                    Before we joined continental travel wasn't difficult to most western European countries so I wouldn't be too concerned as far as holidays and car travel are concerned, unless (per GG) you work in different countries and carry instruments across borders.
                    That depends on how old you are, and when you travelled. Some of us are old enough to remember not being able to take much money out of the UK, or bring money back in. Also some quite severe customs checks at borders. I was once charged on reentering the UK for a half bottle of alcohol - since we had drunk some of the bottle already while on holiday, and we were also threatened with a fine, which was IIRC "graciously" waived.

                    I'm sure the customs officer was not personally involved, but "only doing his job".

                    Additionally, getting money while abroad, for example in Spanish banks, used to be very tedious, and required not only queuing up at one queue, but actually queuing up twice - once to be allowed to proceed to the second queue, and then finally in order to obtain the cash.

                    The more modern more cashless society may be helpful, though there may be glitches if banking is disrupted by the latest changes - which may or may not occur.

                    Is someone in the UK's infrastructure going to set a "Preferences" file to "Yes" or "No" on midnight on 31st October, which will cause a massive chain reaction through all possibly affected aspects of national and also international infrastructure?

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22128

                      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                      .....the scare stories all concern a "no deal" situation which isn't going to happen.
                      Don’t put money on that yet.

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                      • Richard Barrett
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                        • Jan 2016
                        • 6259

                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        Don’t put money on that yet.
                        To be honest I would be completely relaxed about putting all my money on it.

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                        • cloughie
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22128

                          Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                          To be honest I would be completely relaxed about putting all my money on it.
                          Right!

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                          • MrGongGong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            Right!
                            He's a composer... he doesn't have any money

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22128

                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              He's a composer... he doesn't have any money
                              Right!

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                              • Dave2002
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 18025

                                In the meantime, some of the more irresponsible newspapers are trying to stir things up, as ever. Now our "favourite" TV programme is the coverage of the Parliament on the BBC Parliament channel.

                                The TV coverage does seem to show that we do have a responsible Parliament which is taking the whole business seriously. Newspaper attacks on the Speaker of the house do not seem to be justified, nor indeed many attacks on MPs of whichever persuasion.

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