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R3 'Game' theory?
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Judith Robbyns
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Originally posted by DracoM View PostJust a mo: how close is 'gaming' to 'gambling'?
Just a thought.
i.e. encouraging gaming music appreciation - is it next to encouraging one obsessive interest into 'other' activities?
From this, gaming is very close to gambling in that it can be highly addictive but I can’t think music has much ‘power’ to entice new players. Listening to film music doesn’t usually make you want to frequent cinemas although listening to an opera can make you want to see it but that’s a different story.Last edited by doversoul1; 02-11-19, 22:02.
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Richard Tarleton
Originally posted by Judith Robbyns View PostI'm pleased to see this topic being treated with all the seriousness it deserves.
Originally posted by DracoM View PostJust a mo: how close is 'gaming' to 'gambling'?
Just a thought.
i.e. encouraging gaming music appreciation - is it next to encouraging one obsessive interest into 'other' activities?Originally posted by doversoul1 View PostFrom this, gaming is very close to gambling in that it can be highly addictive but I can’t think music has much ‘power’ to entice new players. Listening to film music doesn’t usually make you want to frequent a cinema although listening to an opera can make you want to see it but that’s a different story.
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Originally posted by DracoM View PostJust a mo: how close is 'gaming' to 'gambling'?
Just a thought.
i.e. encouraging gaming music appreciation - is it next to encouraging one obsessive interest into 'other' activities?
STOP this EVIL NOW
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Judith Robbyns
This article https://casinosforrealmoney.org/04/1...-and-gambling/ discusses the difference between gaming and gambling, indicating that 'gambling', which has gained a negative connotation (addiction, debt etc), is now often referred to as 'gaming'. It is a long article and I tired of reading it before the end but it explains a lot about the different types of game.
I also have a young relative who invents/develops/creates (whatever the word is) video games, and goes to 'festivals' or gatherings though I don't know whether they all play these games for a weekend or whether they find out about new games and can buy them. I will ask her about the role of music. Is defining (then providing) any new area of music as a 'genre' principally a marketing strategy? You've heard it, you enjoyed it, now here's some more for you.
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Originally posted by Judith Robbyns View PostThis article https://casinosforrealmoney.org/04/1...-and-gambling/ discusses the difference between gaming and gambling, indicating that 'gambling', which has gained a negative connotation (addiction, debt etc), is now often referred to as 'gaming'. It is a long article and I tired of reading it before the end but it explains a lot about the different types of game.
I also have a young relative who invents/develops/creates (whatever the word is) video games, and goes to 'festivals' or gatherings though I don't know whether they all play these games for a weekend or whether they find out about new games and can buy them. I will ask her about the role of music. Is defining (then providing) any new area of music as a 'genre' principally a marketing strategy? You've heard it, you enjoyed it, now here's some more for you.
..most people associate gaming with role-playing video games.
It is interesting to think that games in a traditional sense, be it Snakes and Ladder, Monopoly or Bridge, are a social activity whereas a lot of gaming as it is now called seems to be mostly a solitary activity (hence a useful babysitter). I am aware that gaming can be for multiple players but even with those, it seems a different kind of group activity from playing a game. Also the role playing in a virtual world of gaming seems to make the player involves much more intensely that any board or card games.
I am aware that gaming can be useful thing for children but I dare say if it were to disappear completely tomorrow, it would not be a great loss to humanity. Except for many people’s financial situations, which of course should not be taken lightly. A bit like ice cream, I suppose.
I wonder what made Radio 3 interested in music for gaming. It has never shown any interest in music for, say children’s TV programmes or TV advertisements.
The article concludes that whilst gaming is not primarily for betting, which gambling is, because gaming players can now gain virtual currency which can be exchanged with (something of) real value, the distinction is now not as clear as it originally was.Last edited by doversoul1; 03-11-19, 11:54.
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Originally posted by doversoul1 View PostI wonder what made Radio 3 interested in music for gaming. It has never shown any interest in music for, say children’s TV programmes or TV advertisements.
The article concludes that whilst gaming is not primarily for betting, which gambling is, because gaming players can now gain virtual currency which can be exchanged with (something of) real value, the distinction is now not as clear as it originally was.
Most of the brightest young composers working today (at least in Europe and Asia, where game scores are usually sourced for reasons of finance) are involved in this line of composition, rather than less remunerative, more constraining - and usually highly derivative - work on Hollywood feature films. I myself have a select collection of CDs taken from computer game scores: Japanese RPGs in particular (composers such as the highly personal Yuki Kajiura) marry a delicious Vaughan Williams lyricism with minimalist "action" tracks, and are often memorable and enjoyable.
This is one way in which "art music" is transforming itself, beyond the sometimes stuffy parameters of the concert hall, cinema and opera house.
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Richard Tarleton
Originally posted by DracoM View PostI am still far from convinced that you can separate gaming from the maybe later slipping into gambling addictions in the sense that BOTH activities are about keyboard-led playing, competing, gambling on outcomes.
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Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View PostHonestly, no - games can be/are often about role play - for example, taking on one or other character in a narrative with outcomes contingent on your actions or decisions, e.g. . You're not even playing against anyone else, necessarily. Such games have actual writers.... (I know one).... Keyboard related and competitive, but so are some birdwatching sites Not my thing, but perfectly wholesome. Still waiting to hear about the music side of things.....
There is a risk of spending too much time gaming and losing track of reality, which might share some of the features of addiction and might be an issue for those whose personalities tend to that profile, but I'm not convinced there is a simple direct link as in 'start playing video games, end up sucked into gambling'.
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