R3 'Game' theory?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

- can some kind capable person do the necessary?

They've gone out to an early Bonfire Night Party, so I've had to do it instead.

[MrGongGong]

They've gone out to an early Bonfire Night Party, so I've had to do it instead.

OOOOOOOOO

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

OOOOOOOOO

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You promised me you'd keep my urinary tract infection a secret!

[Judith Robbyns]

I'm pleased to see this topic being treated with all the seriousness it deserves.

[MrGongGong]

You promised me you'd keep my urinary tract infection a secret!

Saves me from buying you a pint at HCMF ?



(Frank Denyer's gig looks good)

[DracoM]

Just a mo: how close is 'gaming' to 'gambling'?
Just a thought.
i.e. encouraging gaming music appreciation - is it next to encouraging one obsessive interest into 'other' activities?

[doversoul1]

Just a mo: how close is 'gaming' to 'gambling'?
Just a thought.
i.e. encouraging gaming music appreciation - is it next to encouraging one obsessive interest into 'other' activities?

I posted this link upthread.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/oct/08/nhs-opens-clinic-to-help-child-addicts-of-computer-games

From this, gaming is very close to gambling in that it can be highly addictive but I can’t think music has much ‘power’ to entice new players. Listening to film music doesn’t usually make you want to frequent cinemas although listening to an opera can make you want to see it but that’s a different story.

[Richard Tarleton]

I'm pleased to see this topic being treated with all the seriousness it deserves.

Just a mo: how close is 'gaming' to 'gambling'?
Just a thought.
i.e. encouraging gaming music appreciation - is it next to encouraging one obsessive interest into 'other' activities?

From this, gaming is very close to gambling in that it can be highly addictive but I can’t think music has much ‘power’ to entice new players. Listening to film music doesn’t usually make you want to frequent a cinema although listening to an opera can make you want to see it but that’s a different story.

A relative writes scripts/scenarios for quite cerebral computer games which are much more to do with narrative, making choices, developing character etc. - nothing to do with gambling. I've asked for guidance on this topic (the role of music, in said relative's experience) and will hopefully be in a positon to report back.

[MrGongGong]

Just a mo: how close is 'gaming' to 'gambling'?
Just a thought.
i.e. encouraging gaming music appreciation - is it next to encouraging one obsessive interest into 'other' activities?

I started by listening to Donizetti and now i'm a crack addict living in squlour

STOP this EVIL NOW

[Judith Robbyns]

This article https://casinosforrealmoney.org/04/1...-and-gambling/ discusses the difference between gaming and gambling, indicating that 'gambling', which has gained a negative connotation (addiction, debt etc), is now often referred to as 'gaming'. It is a long article and I tired of reading it before the end but it explains a lot about the different types of game.

I also have a young relative who invents/develops/creates (whatever the word is) video games, and goes to 'festivals' or gatherings though I don't know whether they all play these games for a weekend or whether they find out about new games and can buy them. I will ask her about the role of music. Is defining (then providing) any new area of music as a 'genre' principally a marketing strategy? You've heard it, you enjoyed it, now here's some more for you.

[doversoul1]

This article https://casinosforrealmoney.org/04/1...-and-gambling/ discusses the difference between gaming and gambling, indicating that 'gambling', which has gained a negative connotation (addiction, debt etc), is now often referred to as 'gaming'. It is a long article and I tired of reading it before the end but it explains a lot about the different types of game.

I also have a young relative who invents/develops/creates (whatever the word is) video games, and goes to 'festivals' or gatherings though I don't know whether they all play these games for a weekend or whether they find out about new games and can buy them. I will ask her about the role of music. Is defining (then providing) any new area of music as a 'genre' principally a marketing strategy? You've heard it, you enjoyed it, now here's some more for you.

Thank you for the article. Very interesting. I didn’t read about all the different games and gambling but I thought this bit was interesting:

..most people associate gaming with role-playing video games.

It is interesting to think that games in a traditional sense, be it Snakes and Ladder, Monopoly or Bridge, are a social activity whereas a lot of gaming as it is now called seems to be mostly a solitary activity (hence a useful babysitter). I am aware that gaming can be for multiple players but even with those, it seems a different kind of group activity from playing a game. Also the role playing in a virtual world of gaming seems to make the player involves much more intensely that any board or card games.

I am aware that gaming can be useful thing for children but I dare say if it were to disappear completely tomorrow, it would not be a great loss to humanity. Except for many people’s financial situations, which of course should not be taken lightly. A bit like ice cream, I suppose.

I wonder what made Radio 3 interested in music for gaming. It has never shown any interest in music for, say children’s TV programmes or TV advertisements.

The article concludes that whilst gaming is not primarily for betting, which gambling is, because gaming players can now gain virtual currency which can be exchanged with (something of) real value, the distinction is now not as clear as it originally was.

[Master Jacques]

I wonder what made Radio 3 interested in music for gaming. It has never shown any interest in music for, say children’s TV programmes or TV advertisements.

The article concludes that whilst gaming is not primarily for betting, which gambling is, because gaming players can now gain virtual currency which can be exchanged with (something of) real value, the distinction is now not as clear as it originally was.

As an inveterate computer gamer myself (mainly RPG with some Strategy) I think it's about time R3 showed some interest in music for gaming - even R4's excuse for an "arts" programme, Front Row, now has regular reviews of new, blockbuster console and PC games. Needless to say they show no interest in "art" games, such as the masterly, Czech epic Kingdom Come Deliverance, only being interested in popular entertainment.

Most of the brightest young composers working today (at least in Europe and Asia, where game scores are usually sourced for reasons of finance) are involved in this line of composition, rather than less remunerative, more constraining - and usually highly derivative - work on Hollywood feature films. I myself have a select collection of CDs taken from computer game scores: Japanese RPGs in particular (composers such as the highly personal Yuki Kajiura) marry a delicious Vaughan Williams lyricism with minimalist "action" tracks, and are often memorable and enjoyable.

This is one way in which "art music" is transforming itself, beyond the sometimes stuffy parameters of the concert hall, cinema and opera house.

[DracoM]

I am still far from convinced that you can separate gaming from the maybe later slipping into gambling addictions in the sense that BOTH activities are about keyboard-led playing, competing, gambling on outcomes.

The one surely has to be pretty close to the other for some vulnerables?

[Richard Tarleton]

I am still far from convinced that you can separate gaming from the maybe later slipping into gambling addictions in the sense that BOTH activities are about keyboard-led playing, competing, gambling on outcomes.

Honestly, no - games can be/are often about role play - for example, taking on one or other character in a narrative with outcomes contingent on your actions or decisions, e.g. . You're not even playing against anyone else, necessarily. Such games have actual writers.... (I know one).... Keyboard related and competitive, but so are some birdwatching sites Not my thing, but perfectly wholesome. Still waiting to hear about the music side of things.....

[oddoneout]

Honestly, no - games can be/are often about role play - for example, taking on one or other character in a narrative with outcomes contingent on your actions or decisions, e.g. . You're not even playing against anyone else, necessarily. Such games have actual writers.... (I know one).... Keyboard related and competitive, but so are some birdwatching sites Not my thing, but perfectly wholesome. Still waiting to hear about the music side of things.....

And the reward/outcome is different - personal satisfaction rather than monetary gain. I think it is the money side of things which causes the problem with gambling - the conviction that the big win is next or just around the corner so the individual has to keep going or risk missing out. At an everyday level it's what keeps people buying lottery tickets if they always use the same numbers, the fear of not doing it one week and then seeing those numbers coming up.
There is a risk of spending too much time gaming and losing track of reality, which might share some of the features of addiction and might be an issue for those whose personalities tend to that profile, but I'm not convinced there is a simple direct link as in 'start playing video games, end up sucked into gambling'.