'Today' played out to a JN and bit of Wagner!
Jessye Norman (1945 - 2019)
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Originally posted by Orphical View PostI have dipped in and out of R3 this morning in order to hear tributes to Ms Norman. At one point around 11 I had to listen to a rendition of a Radiohead song for cello and piano.
Jessye Norman was one of THE great voices of our times.
R3 should be devoting a day to her.
Listening to this drivel reminds me why I rarely listen to R3 today.
Where do serious music lovers go these days, especially if we need to mourn a legend?
Tbf, JN's profile dipped considerably over the last decade. She retired from opera quite some time ago and I don't think she did that many recitals, either.
Ironically, if it had been a current diva (there's only really one, isn't there?) it would have been all over everywhere.
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Originally posted by Orphical View PostI have dipped in and out of R3 this morning in order to hear tributes to Ms Norman. At one point around 11 I had to listen to a rendition of a Radiohead song for cello and piano.
Jessye Norman was one of THE great voices of our times.
R3 should be devoting a day to her.
Listening to this drivel reminds me why I rarely listen to R3 today.
Where do serious music lovers go these days, especially if we need to mourn a legend?
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As a young, aspiring musician of colour myself, Jessye Norman was important to me. I remember decades ago in the sixth form our careers adviser – a kindly old fellow, actually – arranged an interview for me at the local carpet factory to do some sort of production line task after I had left school. I pointed out that I was studying three ‘A’ levels and Grade 8 in flute and piano and wanted to pursue a career in music, and he observed that, although classical music was a lovely idea, I wouldn’t be happy because the field was the preserve of ‘old white men and they can be very stuffy!’ (he used those words). But I had recently read (I believe in The Listener and the Daily Telegraph Friday magazine) of a new rising star in the world of opera and I already had one or two photos of Jessye Norman on my bedroom wall and her presence gave me the encouragement I needed to press on. Alas, I wasn’t good enough to take the positions of either Gareth Morris or David Butt (fellow flutists will recognise the names) that I coveted at the time, but I did at least go on to study English and Music at Uni and eventually became a teacher.
Incidentally, re. the ever-changing title to this thread. I had no objection to the re-naming of the thread ‘Jessye Norman R.I.P.’ It has a gentle, elegiac ring befitting the passing of a loved one and has ancient precedent. By contrast ‘Jessye Norman is dead,’ which was the original title, sounds more like a crude tabloid front page. Lately it seems we have become a less civilised nation, but it would be pleasant to hope that, in this small corner of this rough British field that is The Friends of Radio 3, a little old-fashioned civility remains.
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I met Jessye Norman once, way back in 1985, after the Mahler 2 concert mentioned by LHC upthread. Both she and Abbado signed my programme book which I still have. It's also signed by Leonard Bernstein.
I saw her just once more, at a memorable Gurrelieder with Boulez at the 1987 Proms with the NYO.
Fantastic voice with an enormous compass, happy in soprano and mezzo roles."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Originally posted by Bella Kemp View PostAs a young, aspiring musician of colour myself, Jessye Norman was important to me....
I have also been pondering the difference between the titles of the thread, and note your preference. Someone who dwelt on Dead and Dying a lot had many thoughts to express, and one poem seems to have been made for the passing of someone who 'was important'.
We learn in the Retreating
How vast an one
Was recently among us -
A Perished Sun
Endear in the departure
How doubly more
Than all the Golden Presence
It was - before -
Emily Dickinson
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Originally posted by Padraig View PostThank you for that story Bella. That, and the many glowing appreciations above of Jessye Norman have persuaded me that I should long ago have acquired her Four Last Songs.
I have also been pondering the difference between the titles of the thread, and note your preference. Someone who dwelt on Dead and Dying a lot had many thoughts to express, and one poem seems to have been made for the passing of someone who 'was important'.
We learn in the Retreating
How vast an one
Was recently among us -
A Perished Sun
Endear in the departure
How doubly more
Than all the Golden Presence
It was - before -
Emily Dickinson
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Originally posted by Padraig View PostThank you for that story Bella. That, and the many glowing appreciations above of Jessye Norman have persuaded me that I should long ago have acquired her Four Last Songs.
I have also been pondering the difference between the titles of the thread, and note your preference. Someone who dwelt on Dead and Dying a lot had many thoughts to express, and one poem seems to have been made for the passing of someone who 'was important'.
We learn in the Retreating
How vast an one
Was recently among us -
A Perished Sun
Endear in the departure
How doubly more
Than all the Golden Presence
It was - before -
Emily Dickinson
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Originally posted by Padraig View PostThank you for that story Bella. That, and the many glowing appreciations above of Jessye Norman have persuaded me that I should long ago have acquired her Four Last Songs.
I have also been pondering the difference between the titles of the thread, and note your preference. Someone who dwelt on Dead and Dying a lot had many thoughts to express, and one poem seems to have been made for the passing of someone who 'was important'.
We learn in the Retreating
How vast an one
Was recently among us -
A Perished Sun
Endear in the departure
How doubly more
Than all the Golden Presence
It was - before -
Emily Dickinson
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It is a lasting regret (hence my being unable to resist recounting it) that we missed hearing Jessye Norman sing Vier letzte Lieder in annoying circumstances. In the early 80s we were visiting my wife's family in Leipzig - then DDR. My mother-in law had noticed that Jessye was due to be singing them at the Gewandhaus at the time we were visiting and booked us tickets. Great anticipation on our part and corresponding desolation when it was announced the day before that Kurt Masur (not Jessye) was indisposed and the concert was cancelled.
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