Unheard British symphonies

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  • Maclintick
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    • Jan 2012
    • 1076

    #91
    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    I thought they were by someone called Franz Rise & Shine.
    Some disambiguation needed, shurely ?

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    • verismissimo
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      • Nov 2010
      • 2957

      #92
      Originally posted by Maclintick View Post
      Some disambiguation needed, shurely ?
      Nothing from Moreland, Maclintick? His symphony of 1936?

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      • cloughie
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        • Dec 2011
        • 22128

        #93
        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Oh I don't know about that. He was buried in Surey, after all.
        With or without the fringe?

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        • Maclintick
          Full Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 1076

          #94
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          Probably not much point my reiterating enthusiasm for the David Matthews Symphonies yet again....
          (But.... try 4,5,7 and 9 as "entry points", rather than the epic 6th..... 8th remains unrecorded...)...

          But what about Maxwell Davies?
          Not much played now, his 10 Symphonies must be by far the most original such creations post-war....7 and 8 still lack recordings...

          Scarcely surprising given their complexity and "difficulty"..(often based on medieval chants and plainsong, flowing and densely contrapuntal).. but so very rewarding to return to...
          http

          Was at the première, & thought it a fine work, if not displacing those of his earlier "enfant terrible" phase,"Worldes Blis", 8 Songs, "Taverner", et al, in my affections...

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          • Dave2002
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 18025

            #95
            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            Oh I don't know about that. He was buried in Surey, after all.
            Are you sure of that?

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #96
              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ... God's own country not good enough for him?

              Typical Yorkshireman....
              Of course it wasn't; it is well known that he didn't believe in God!

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              • Maclintick
                Full Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1076

                #97
                Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                Nothing from Moreland, Maclintick? His symphony of 1936?
                I might have been a tad too harsh on this, first time round...

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37707

                  #98
                  Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                  With or without the fringe?
                  On top form

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                  • Edgy 2
                    Guest
                    • Jan 2019
                    • 2035

                    #99
                    Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                    Simpson's 9th (50' continuous play, multi sectional), on Hyperion, was of course the Gramophone Contemporary Record of the Year for 1989.... I bet it's on many shelves of contributors here...
                    Then considered his magnum opus.....or any magnum opus!
                    How soon we forget.... Tempora Mutantur........etc

                    But 3-5 are probably the best (catchiest! Yes, really...) entry points....10th has a sublime slow movement, and the structure is similar to the Hammerklavier overall...
                    Nielsen was probably Simpson's true "master" or forebear, which may offer some explanation why some who find that music difficult are put off...
                    Sorry, bit rushed today...(and don't get me started on Gerhard.... wonderful obsession to have...)

                    Coffee and croissant, then off out.... too much goin' on today...
                    Yes the Bob Simpson Hyperion box is one of my most treasured sets,must re think my top 20,like I said 20 is not enough.

                    Some others represented on my shelves

                    Daniel Jones,Alun Hoddinott,Arthur Butterworth,Arnold Cooke,Steve Elcock,David Hackbridge Johnson,John Gardner,John Veale....
                    “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8489

                      My CD collection includes one or more symphonies by Alwyn, Berkeley, Boughton, Hoddinott, Mathias and Rawsthorne, plus other composers included in a recently purchased Lyrita box set.

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                      • Pabmusic
                        Full Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 5537

                        R. O. Morris wrote a symphony - it was published, too. How interesting it would be to hear that, given his influence on British music (Tippett, Lambert, Rubbra, Finzi, Lutyens, Stevens, Milner, Coulthard, Milford, Ferguson, etc.).
                        Last edited by Pabmusic; 16-08-19, 07:43.

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                        • Braunschlag
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                          • Jul 2017
                          • 484

                          Probably too late to the party - Arthur Butterworth is worth a mention, as is Robert Still (3rd and 4th symphonies on Lyrita, the 4th being my particular favourite).

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                          • verismissimo
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2957

                            Originally posted by Maclintick View Post
                            I might have been a tad too harsh on this, first time round...
                            Our in-joke of the year!

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                            • Pulcinella
                              Host
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 10965

                              I can remember hearing and rather liking a symphony by Patric Standford.
                              From his Wiki biography it is likely to have been number 5, a BBC commission, though I don't recall it having a solo soprano.
                              Last edited by Pulcinella; 16-08-19, 12:55. Reason: Name corrected!

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                              • LMcD
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                                • Sep 2017
                                • 8489

                                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                                I can remember hearing and rather liking a symphony by Patrick Stanford.
                                From his Wiki biography it is likely to have been number 5, a BBC commission, though I don't recall it having a solo soprano.
                                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patric_Standford
                                Naxos have issued recordings of the 1st symphony and the Christmas Carol Symphony (and other works).

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