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  • Richard Tarleton

    #31
    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
    I didn't realise until just now that Einaudi was the son of the founder of the publisher of that name, which until taken over by the Berlusconi monster was the most prestigious book publisher in Italy. I guess that sort of background would have given him quite a career advantage over similarly "talented" people from lowlier origins.
    Interesting - I looked up the only other prestigious Italian publisher I could think of, whom I knew about for publishing Dr Zhivago and The Leopard - I confess I'd failed to keep up with his subsequent career

    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
    Oh and -
    - this is really unfair. My posts get edited/removed just like anyone else's. If anyone really thinks I receive some kind of special treatment they should take this up with the moderators!
    Indeed!

    (By the way until LezLee's OP I hadn't heard of Einaudi, so I naturally did a bit of research on YouTube. Not sure that I'll be pursuing it)

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    • Beresford
      Full Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 555

      #32
      Like others here, I disengage from Einaudi's music after about 20 seconds, when I realise it isn't going to change. But why do so many people love it?

      So I switched off my critical side, and tried to watch all a YouTube video of his Albert Hall concert. It's like being massaged with Essential Oils. SPOILER ALERT - it does change after about 20 minutes, to a different chord! YouTube shows the musicians smiling at each other just before this change. Many of the YouTube comments are along the lines "That change was so emotional", and "Why don't classical buffs realise how wonderful / emotional / recharging is this music?"

      I listened to a few imitators (?) on YouTube. None were as good. They sounded much more formulaic. I don't know why that should be, but it is clearly something other than harmonic invention. Perhaps if you took a simple pop tune, say "Pennies From Heaven", and extended it to an hour, it might eventually get up your nose more than Einaudi's simple chords.

      My guess is that many in Einaudi's audiences find the tension / resolution pattern of most conventional classical music to be too didactic, almost telling them what to feel, when what they want is the restorative effects of a chillout. After being hassled all day by screens / people / London, the refuge of being "mesmerised" (Guardian critic) has great appeal.

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37691

        #33
        Originally posted by Beresford View Post
        Like others here, I disengage from Einaudi's music after about 20 seconds, when I realise it isn't going to change. But why do so many people love it?

        So I switched off my critical side, and tried to watch all a YouTube video of his Albert Hall concert. It's like being massaged with Essential Oils. SPOILER ALERT - it does change after about 20 minutes, to a different chord! YouTube shows the musicians smiling at each other just before this change. Many of the YouTube comments are along the lines "That change was so emotional", and "Why don't classical buffs realise how wonderful / emotional / recharging is this music?"
        Maybe the answer is somewhere along the lines of the man in the psychiatric hospital banging his head against a wall who, when asked why does he do it? answers that it's so nice when he stops.

        I'm reminded of a story about Debussy, in a composition class, being urged by the teacher, "Modulate! modulate now!" to which the young Claude replies, "Why should I modulate? I'm quite happy in this key!"

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        • Padraig
          Full Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 4237

          #34
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          "Why should I modulate? I'm quite happy in this key!"
          In B or not in B?...A good question.

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37691

            #35
            Originally posted by Padraig View Post
            In B or not in B?...A good question.
            B sharp, c?

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            • LezLee
              Full Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 634

              #36
              "Why should I modulate? I'm quite happy in this key!"

              You could go blind, you know

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              • Boilk
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 976

                #37
                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                "Why should I modulate? I'm quite happy in this key!"
                You musn't venture too far from the key you're already in. Everything in modulation.
                Last edited by Boilk; 11-08-19, 11:03.

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                • LeMartinPecheur
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4717

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Boilk View Post
                  You musn't venture too far from the key you're already in. Everything in modulation.
                  In that case, beware of Wagner's Ring-modulator!
                  I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                  • oddoneout
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 9204

                    #39
                    I thought briefly that Sarah Walker was playing Einaudi this morning - snippets of vaguely familiar tunes not going anywhere, but the player seemed to be hammering the piano rather more forcefully than I expected. It was Michael Nyman playing one of his pieces... I wasn't in the room when it was announced because I wanted to leave some space between the Judith Weir which had just finished and whatever came next.

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                    • Richard Barrett
                      Guest
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 6259

                      #40
                      Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                      the player seemed to be hammering the piano rather more forcefully than I expected.
                      That should have been a giveaway!

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37691

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                        That should have been a giveaway!
                        Too cheap - it would have been a Steinway!

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                        • ahinton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16122

                          #42
                          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                          I thought briefly that Sarah Walker was playing Einaudi this morning
                          It might have been better had she been driving one...

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                          • Padraig
                            Full Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 4237

                            #43
                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            It might have been better had she been driving one...
                            I can can't hear you properly.

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                            • ahinton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 16122

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                              I can can't hear you properly.
                              Quoi?

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                              • LezLee
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                                • Apr 2019
                                • 634

                                #45

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