Radio 3 sheds fuddy-duddy image

[Nick Armstrong]

Far Kinelle, I think...

Or perhaps Far Quenelle, a speciality of Brittany related to Far Breton (which I had for my tea yesterday)

[MickyD]

Or perhaps Far Quenelle, a speciality of Brittany related to Far Breton (which I had for my tea yesterday)

I always believed quenelles to be a Lyonnais dish.

[Nick Armstrong]

I always believed quenelles to be a Lyonnais dish.

It’s a phonetic rather than a gastronomic creation

[Richard Tarleton]

Edward Gardner is critical of R3's "Passionate Minds" in today's Times -

“I find that kind of age-group stereotyping incredibly patronising . . . My belief is that if you are bold and give everything you’ve got you will get a passionate response from people of all ages.”

He says "Be bold and they will come". 2-page feature in the Arts section.

[LMcD]

Edward Gardner is critical of R3's "Passionate Minds" in today's Times -



He says "Be bold and they will come". 2-page feature in the Arts section.

Sounds like the kind of advice Julian and Sandy used to offer in 'Round The Horne'.

[Bryn]

Sounds like the kind of advice Julian and Sandy used to offer in 'Round The Horne'.

It would have been even better if he has mentioned it in the piece about him on this morning's Today programme on Radio 4. I suppose he may have said something but it got lost in the edit.

[LezLee]

Or perhaps Far Quenelle, a speciality of Brittany related to Far Breton (which I had for my tea yesterday)

Didn't Far Breton present 'Ready, Steady, Cook'?

[Nick Armstrong]

Sounds like the kind of advice Julian and Sandy used to offer in 'Round The Horne'.

Didn't Far Breton present 'Ready, Steady, Cook'?

[jayne lee wilson]

While all this is going on the Proms keep giving us the depth and quality trad-R3 listeners are supposed to desire: last night's stunningly memorable Prom 8, with music making and sound of high quality, a fascinating interval talk about Brahms (as much widely-referential depth as you'd wish there too),
a startling new music premiere....

And Nicola Heywood-Thomas' calm, authoritative presentation....

It's been a very good first week with some great premieres. Next week looks even stronger. Look at the Proms 15-22 programming!
Radio 3 still offers us these things regularly.... so why not listen when they're there, and fuss less over press releases...

(Ed Gardner may have been channelling the Kevin Costner film Field of Dreams..whose most memorable, oft-adapted line is "build it and they will come...". Well if only they would.... tune in to Proms like last night....etc.... much of the infrastructure is still in place...)

[Serial_Apologist]

While all this is going on the Proms keep giving us the depth and quality trad-R3 listeners are supposed to desire: last night's stunningly memorable Prom 8, with music making and sound of high quality, a fascinating interval talk about Brahms (as much widely-referential depth as you'd wish there too),
a startling new music premiere....

And Nicola-Heywood Thomas' calm, authoritative presentation....

It's been a very good first week with some great premieres. Next week looks even stronger.
Radio 3 still offers us these things regularly.... so why not listen when they're there, and fuss less over press releases...

(Ed Gardner may have been channelling the Kevin Costner film Field of Dreams..whose most memorable, oft-adapted line is "build it and they will come...". Well if only they would.... tune in to Proms like last night....etc.... much of the infrastructure is still in place...)

Do they send the Proms presenters on sabbaticals for the rest of the year?

[jayne lee wilson]

Do they send the Proms presenters on sabbaticals for the rest of the year?

You often hear NH-T on BBCNOW evening relays at any time of year....she's great, one of the best.

BTW, R4 PM has just trailed an interview with a classical conductor on music programming for later ....might be Gardner again, dunno, but why not tune in & see what happens...

(And I hope Any Questions is a glorious unholy row about the Churchill Tribute Act in NO.10..well-timed for my Proms Night Off.)

[Richard Tarleton]

You often hear NH-T on BBCNOW evening relays at any time of year....she's great, one of the best.

BTW, R4 PM has just trailed an interview with a classical conductor on music programming for later ....might be Gardner again, dunno, but why not tune in & see what happens...

(And I hope Any Questions is a glorious unholy row about the Churchill Tribute Act in NO.10..well-timed for my Proms Night Off.)

It was about Gardner - but was in fact a self-serving interview with KD, who else ....in particular it was about Gardner's suggestion that orchestras avoid what he terms "missionary position" programming, by which apparently he means safe programming of the all-Brahms variety.

NH-T is indeed excellent, one of the best of the bunch, R3 as it used to be...we don't hear nearly enough of her. She's mainly Wales-based, obviously, I remember her presenting a broadcast-live lunchtime concert from St David's Hall that I was at.

Jayne that's two threads you've dragged current politics into kicking and screaming - however lamentable, they just don't belong in a thread about R3's audience research, or lack of it

[Jonathan]

As someone who is in the middle of the bracket that R3 is trying to attract (I'm 46), I'm sad to have seen the decline of what I knew in the 80s when I started listening. I rarely listen these days to the output of the station and any further attempts at more popularisation are likely as not to stop me from listening even more.

[LezLee]

Jayne, that's two threads you've dragged current politics into kicking and screaming - however lamentable, they just don't belong in a thread about R3's audience research, or lack of it

As the OP of one of those threads, I completely agree.

[jayne lee wilson]

It was about Gardner - but was in fact a self-serving interview with KD, who else ....in particular it was about Gardner's suggestion that orchestras avoid what he terms "missionary position" programming, by which apparently he means safe programming of the all-Brahms variety.

NH-T is indeed excellent, one of the best of the bunch, R3 as it used to be...we don't hear nearly enough of her. She's mainly Wales-based, obviously, I remember her presenting a broadcast-live lunchtime concert from St David's Hall that I was at.

Jayne that's two threads you've dragged current politics into kicking and screaming - however lamentable, they just don't belong in a thread about R3's audience research, or lack of it

'Twas a mere quip, a jest, a bagatelle.... (to the likeminded or so I thought...)

"R3 as it used to be"....?
Radio 3 as it was last night and most of this week's evenings, in fact.....