The 2018 Survey of 'Classical' Music on Radio 3

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  • Suffolkcoastal
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3290

    The 2018 Survey of 'Classical' Music on Radio 3

    Welcome to my 10th annual review of ‘Classical Music’ on Radio 3. For details of how this is done/calculated please see the earlier reviews. I have kept to the changes I first introduced in 2016 to the way the information is presented:
    Summary below:

    • The raw data with the actual number of pieces/chunks.
    As this is the 10th year that I’ve been presenting the survey, I will be uploading total figures for all composers who’ve had at least 100 pieces/chunks broadcast between 2009 & 2018, this will follow shortly.
    • I’ve kept the composer list to those with 50 or more pieces/chunks broadcast.

    If you would like the figures for 2018 for other composers, let me know and I will be happy to supply them for you.

    As usual I cannot guarantee that the figures for each composer are 100% accurate as I’m not perfect and can miss the odd piece/chunk, I would say that it’s around 99% accurate and I use the same method each year to try and maintain consistency of approach.

    Summary
    The most noticeable feature was a significant increase in the amount of non-classical works included within normally ‘classical’ programmes/slots, in fact more than ever was the case under RW! The overall amount of pieces/chunks broadcast was also at its highest ever rate, aided by more playlist programmes than ever. Many R3 ‘warhorses’ were grossly overplayed, is there really a need to have over 130 Hungarian Dances broadcast, 31 lots of Rhapsody in Blue, over 40 Prelude de l’apres… broadcast even in a composer’s anniversary year?

    Anniversary Composers
    As usual a mixed bag, notably as there were quite a number this year. Debussy was overdone IMHO. Bernstein looked to have done well, however if you take West Side Story, Candide, On the Town & Wonderful Town out of the equation, the rest of his output was largely rather poorly represented. It seems to sum up the present state of R3 in massively overplaying the ‘warhorses’ and paying considerably less attention to less well-known works. Surely an anniversary year is the perfect opportunity to explore the full range of a composer’s output?? Gounod didn’t do well, again the main concentration was on the familiar. Parry did reasonably OK, as did Rossini & F Couperin, Berwald however was largely kept to a minimum with the majority of the works played seemingly conveniently ‘hidden away’ on TTN.

    Winners and losers
    The usual overplaying of Ravel & record figures for Beethoven, Dvorak, Gershwin & Schubert (excluding the ‘fest’). R Strauss having a good year as did Britten. Vaughan Williams, in terms of overall pieces/chunks had his best year since 2008, however the overall figure is somewhat misleading, as the overall figure largely consist of short works & light pieces, & very few large-scale works were broadcast complete. In fact the number of his complete symphonies broadcast was as low as I can remember & without the Proms would have been negligible. It was encouraging to see a little more Bliss & Lutoslawski. So as usual R3 continues to be a mere shadow of what it once was despite some occasional ‘glimmers’ of hope.

    Figures for symphonies in 2018 will follow later (hopefully).

    Composer Figures - 2018
    Key is as follows: Position in 2018 - Composer - 2018 Total


    1 BACH J S 1543
    2 MOZART W A 1478
    3 SCHUBERT 1146
    4 BEETHOVEN 1099
    5 DEBUSSY 825
    6 BRAHMS 806
    7 HANDEL 729
    8 HAYDN F J 715
    9 CHOPIN 709
    10 DVORAK 598
    11 RAVEL 573
    12 MENDELSSOHN FELIX 550
    13 TCHAIKOVSKY P I 516
    14 SCHUMANN R 496
    15 VIVALDI 476
    16 STRAUSS R 436
    17 BRITTEN 407
    18 SIBELIUS 390
    19 RACHMANINOV 380
    20 GRIEG 369
    21 ELGAR 365
    VAUGHAN WILLIAMS 365
    23 LISZT 350
    24 SAINT-SAENS 319
    25 SHOSTAKOVICH 313
    26 STRAVINSKY 293
    27 PURCELL H 292
    28 TELEMANN 278
    29 BERNSTEIN L 263
    30 FAURE 257
    31 GERSHWIN 248
    32 PROKOFIEV S 247
    33 WAGNER R 233
    34 ROSSINI 225
    VERDI 225
    36 POULENC 214
    37 MAHLER G 201
    38 BERLIOZ 192
    39 BARTOK 190
    40 COPLAND 189
    41 DOWLAND 181
    42 MONTEVERDI 180
    43 RAMEAU 175
    44 COUPERIN F 170
    HOLST G 170
    46 BYRD 168
    47 SCARLATTI D 163
    48 JANACEK 152
    49 GRAINGER 144
    50 RIMSKY KORSAKOV 141
    51 WALTON 140
    52 BRUCKNER 139
    WEBER C M VON 139
    54 BIZET 130
    55 BACH C P E 128
    56 GABRIELI G 123
    57 PARRY H 120
    58 NIELSEN C 116
    PUCCINI 116
    60 STRAUSS J II 112
    61 RESPIGHI 110
    62 BOULANGER L 106
    63 GESUALDO 104
    PART 104
    PIAZZOLLA 104
    66 TALLIS 103
    67 CORELLI 102
    68 GLAZUNOV 100
    SMETANA 100
    70 KODALY 98
    71 SCHUMANN C 97
    72 MESSIAEN 93
    73 SCHUTZ 91
    74 PAGANINI 90
    75 GOUNOD 89
    76 LIGETI G 88
    77 MENDELSSOHN FANNY 87
    78 ALBENIZ 86
    79 FALLA 85
    80 ARNOLD M 82
    STANFORD 82
    82 JOSQUIN 80
    83 BARBER S 79
    BORODIN 79
    MUSSORGSKY 79
    86 FRANCK C 78
    PALESTRINA 78
    SULLIVAN 78
    WOLF H 78
    90 FINZI 76
    SATIE 76
    92 BRIDGE 75
    93 BRUCH 74
    KORNGOLD 74
    95 GLASS P 73
    96 DELIUS 72
    97 SCRIABIN 70
    98 SCHOENBERG 69
    99 BUXTEHUDE 68
    TIPPETT 68
    101 BEACH 65
    ENESCU 65
    HOWELLS 65
    VILLA LOBOS 65
    105 STROZZI B 64
    106 BINGEN HILDEGARD OF 63
    MACMILLAN J 63
    108 CHAUSSON 62
    LASSUS 62
    110 LUTOSLAWSKI 61
    111 MASSENET 60
    112 CHAMINADE 59
    SUK 59
    TAKEMITSU 59
    115 KREISLER F 58
    MARTINU 58
    117 BERIO L 57
    HAHN R 57
    119 SZYMANOWSKI 56
    120 CHABRIER 55
    GLINKA 55
    122 ADAMS J 53
    STENHAMMAR 53
    124 PACHELBEL 52
    125 BUTTERWORTH G 51
    IVES C 51
    LULLY 51
    SOLER P 51
    129 CACCINI F 50
    DELIBES 50
    MUSGRAVE 50
    PEJACEVIC 50
    RODRIGO 50
    Last edited by Suffolkcoastal; 03-01-19, 21:41.
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    Fantastic work, as usual, Suffy - and fascinating reading, as always.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Wychwood
      Full Member
      • Aug 2017
      • 247

      #3
      Well, there is so much food for thought here, and it will take a while to digest all the information. Thank you, SC, for the huge effort that has gone into this research and the conclusions you have drawn.

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      • antongould
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8782

        #4
        Absolutely superb as ever SC - thank you ever so much ........

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #5
          May I echo my thanks as well. Sterling work as ever, SS.
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30285

            #6
            I think it might rate a comment or two on the FoR3 Facebook page! Very many thanks, Suffy.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • gradus
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 5607

              #7
              Well done, quite an achievement and I'd have thought of quite some value to the station. Do you send it to the Controller?

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              • Stanfordian
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 9311

                #8
                Originally posted by gradus View Post
                Well done, quite an achievement and I'd have thought of quite some value to the station. Do you send it to the Controller?
                What you mean the BBC R3 management don't have this data already? They certainly should!


                There are certainly some surprises for me such as Ravel being as high 11, L. Boulanger being as high as 62, F. Mendelssohn being as high as 77, Gounod only 75, Bruch only 93, Delius only 96, Beach being as high as 101, Rodrigo only 129.
                Last edited by Stanfordian; 04-01-19, 11:06.

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                • antongould
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8782

                  #9
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  I think it might rate a comment or two on the FoR3 Facebook page! Very many thanks, Suffy.

                  Over to you Facebook leader .......

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                  • Suffolkcoastal
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3290

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                    What you mean the BBC R3 management don't have this data already? They certainly should!


                    There are certainly some surprises for me such as Ravel being as high 11, L. Boulanger being as high as 62, F. Mendelssohn being as high as 77, Gounod only 75, Bruch only 93, Delius only 96, Beach being as high as 101, Rodrigo only 129.
                    It was the death centenary of Lili Boulanger, hence her higher total. R3, reflecting the BBC's policy, has been promoting women composers in the last couple of years, hence the higher numbers for some. It is typical of the current R3 however that it is very selective on which women composers it chooses to promote, Lutyens and Zwilich for example have hardly featured at all.
                    Ravel's total was a 10 year high, aided partly by having a fair number of his works among R3's favourite overplayed warhorses. I believe this was Delius's worst year since I started my survey, Gounod was another missed anniversary opportunity.

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                    • kernelbogey
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5745

                      #11
                      It occurs to me that Bach Before Seven on weekday Breakfast throughout the year would contribute to Bach before Mozart in SC's list.

                      And thanks for the data, SC.

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                      • Stanfordian
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 9311

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                        It was the death centenary of Lili Boulanger, hence her higher total. R3, reflecting the BBC's policy, has been promoting women composers in the last couple of years, hence the higher numbers for some. It is typical of the current R3 however that it is very selective on which women composers it chooses to promote, Lutyens and Zwilich for example have hardly featured at all.
                        Ravel's total was a 10 year high, aided partly by having a fair number of his works among R3's favourite overplayed warhorses. I believe this was Delius's worst year since I started my survey, Gounod was another missed anniversary opportunity.
                        Hiya Suffolkcoastal,

                        Thanks very much for your reply. Yes, I did know it BBC R3 was promoting women composers and Boulanger's anniversary but as you say R3 has been very selective in its choices. I rather hoped there might have been more Louise Farrenc, Germaine Tailleferre and Ethel Smyth. Delius certainly isn't going out of fashion with me.

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                        • Zucchini
                          Guest
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 917

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                          What you mean the BBC R3 management don't have this data already? They certainly should!
                          They certainly do.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30285

                            #14
                            Originally posted by antongould View Post
                            Over to you Facebook leader .......
                            We'll have Mr Lockley over soon saying 'With Friends Like You &c' (Don't blame the messenger!)
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • edashtav
                              Full Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 3670

                              #15
                              Many thanks Suffolkcoastal for providing this fascinating but disturbing information. It irks me that we need voluntary labour year on year from you when the BBC, with its massive resource base, doesn't release its own statistics.

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