Simon Rattle launches east London music academy

[doversoul1]

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/sep/13/lsos-simon-rattle-launches-east-london-music-academy

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[Beef Oven!]

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...-music-academy

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Good grief, the beginning of the end.

[cloughie]

Good grief, the beginning of the end.

What the East London Music Acadaemy or a ‘Better Place’ ?

[BBMmk2]

What the East London Music Acadaemy or a ‘Better Place’ ?

Surely anything like this is good?

[Richard Tarleton]

Surely anything like this is good?

Whilst agreeing that yes it is, Richard Morrison in today's Times qualifies this by saying

It must be pointed out, however, that there are 32 London boroughs, not ten. Among the other 22 are many with areas of high deprivation, where very musical children are just as likely to go unnoticed or untutored. The LSO may reasonably point out that London has five symphony orchestras and two opera orchestras, all of them involved in educational work in different areas. Yet wouldn’t it have been marvellous if, for once, they had collaborated rather than competed, and presented a single academy scheme extended across not only the 32 London boroughs, but far into the surrounding shires as well?

Of course, that would have required several publicly funded institutions to do some joined-up thinking together. There’s a law against that, isn’t there?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Morrison is a lousy judge of Musical performance and aesthetics, but he is excellent when commenting on political funding of Arts and Arts Education - his comments quoted in RT's #5 are further demonstration of his good sense and sense of fairness and justice.

[Beef Oven!]

Surely anything like this is good?

Good heavens, no!!!! It would be our worse nightmare!!

[Stanfordian]

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...-music-academy

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So Rattle will be funding it will he? Oh, he's not!

[MrGongGong]

Morrison is a lousy judge of Musical performance and aesthetics, but he is excellent when commenting on political funding of Arts and Arts Education - his comments quoted in RT's #5 are further demonstration of his good sense and sense of fairness and justice.

There is no chance of collaboration when competition is forced on ALL arts organisations in order for them to exist.

Nice to see folks in London getting some attention for a change

[cloughie]

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...-music-academy

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...and surely it is better to have a good model concentrating on a specified smaller area rather than diluting over 32 boroughs when apart from anything else transport logistics of the area (what do I know being in a rural area), would make it more difficult!

Morrison is a lousy judge of Musical performance and aesthetics, but he is excellent when commenting on political funding of Arts and Arts Education - his comments quoted in RT's #5 are further demonstration of his good sense and sense of fairness and justice.

[BBMmk2]

Whilst agreeing that yes it is, Richard Morrison in today's Times qualifies this by saying

Yes, that sounds like a much better idea, instead of everyone doing their own thing.

[ardcarp]

Rattle was on the Today programme this morning. This is LSO doing 'outreach' which can only, surely, be a Good Thing? He mentioned the lamentable state of music in many [most?] schools, and made the point that opportunity should be there for everyone. The only words of Rattle's I didn't agree with were that 'classical' audiences only like to see 'their own sort' on the platform. He probably didn't mean to say that..it was a live interview...and I guess he was making the point that we need to encourage more diversity in our choirs and orchestras. They seem to have worked out how the project is going to be funded; at least partly from London Boroughs, I gather.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/b0bjyq5h

1hr 54 mins from start

[MrGongGong]

Rattle was on the Today programme this morning. This is LSO doing 'outreach' which can only, surely, be a Good Thing? He mentioned the lamentable state of music in many [most?] schools, and made the point that opportunity should be there for everyone.

No shit Sherlock
The LSO, along with all the other funded organisations does plenty of "outreach" , "participation" etc etc
it's not exactly as if this is NEW (not that i'm suggesting that you said that !)

BUT (and forgive the repetition)
the idea that Sir Simon is rinding in on a white horse to save music education is nonsense

All gone a bit quiet on the vanity hall hasn't it?

(i've got lots of time for him BUT he isn't going to stop the systematic destruction of music education which goes on apace)

[Richard Barrett]

the idea that Sir Simon is rinding in on a white horse to save music education is nonsense

He's riding in with a box of sticking plasters to stop a crumbling house from collapsing. While, as you say, ignoring the fact that the whole country and not just London is full of crumbling houses. It's government policy that needs to be changed and there's only one way that is going to happen.

[ardcarp]

and there's only one way that is going to happen.

Unfortunately, the other lot probably see classical music as elitist.