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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
    I can't imagine why anyone should be feel guilty when listening to music of their personal choice. Life's too short to worry about matters such as this!
    ... quite agree - you have no reason at all to feel guilty enjoying the compositions of Stanford...



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    • kernelbogey
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      • Nov 2010
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      #17
      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      I’m not sure who coined the ‘Guilty pleasures’ tag but it is a stupid expression...
      It's usually associated with things that are allegedly bad for you - like drinking alcohol, smoking tobacco etc.

      Music can't be bad for you... can it?

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post

        Music can't be bad for you... can it?
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        André Rieu & His Johann Strauss Orchestra performing The Last Rose live in The Netherlands. Taken from the DVD 'The Flying Dutchman'.For concert dates and ti...



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        • kernelbogey
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          • Nov 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

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          • Richard Tarleton

            #20
            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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            André Rieu & His Johann Strauss Orchestra performing The Last Rose live in The Netherlands. Taken from the DVD 'The Flying Dutchman'.For concert dates and ti...



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            Just to be clear, it's Andre Rieu that's bad for you, not The Groves of Blarney, or Thomas Moore's immortal song (your starter for 10 - which fictional detective whistles it? ) - here it is as set by Flotow in "Marta", sung by the divine Anneleise Rothenburger - and of course recently heard on the soundtrack of 3 Billboards by Renée Fleming.... Some things are sacred.

            I really can't think of any (seeing as Abba's OK). I do have a guilty reading pleasure, which I believe I share with the late AA Gill - occasionally re-reading John Buchan. A challenge, perhaps for the likes of Sir A L-W - Prester John - The Musical?

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            • vinteuil
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12846

              #21
              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
              I do have a guilty reading pleasure, which I believe I share with the late AA Gill - occasionally re-reading John Buchan. A challenge, perhaps for the likes of Sir A L-W - Prester John - The Musical?
              ... I hope you are reading them in the 1950s Penguins (bookjackets by my pa... )





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              The Island Of Sheep by Buchan, John and a great selection of related books, art and collectibles available now at AbeBooks.co.uk.

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 10966

                #22
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                Nor can I - and there was, because I remember making a similar reply to Cloiughie's here: I'm shameless, me - gleefully admitting my love of G&S, Carmina Biriani, Bolero, Die Kunst der Fuge, William Tell Ovt and other potboiling warhorses, whilst declaring my utter contempt for R-K's Scheherazade, Ravel's orcastration of Mussorgsky's Pictures etc etc with equal delight whenever the occasion arises (like this one )

                No guilt - just a lot of convictions!
                Was it this?
                Not quite the same: Five pieces you would be happy to never hear again

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                • jayne lee wilson
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 10711

                  #23
                  I guess this idea of "guilty pleasures" evokes an older Radio-Three world, where we were supposed (after a guilty little smile of knowingness) to turn our noses up, or stop our ears, to Pop Classics, like.... usual suspects of Bizet, Bruch, Vivaldi, Gounod, Offenbach.... or anything in the Classic fM Top Twenty (Gorecki!) ....a station we would all (or were supposed to) pour scorn upon....

                  My own version would be film music - I can still tear up over the themes from Jurassic Park, Star Wars, ET, Gladiator, Shawshank...
                  If you enjoy a good guilt trip, I dunno, apply it to alcohol or something...IS there any pleasure left to be guilty about...?

                  Sugar?

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    Was it this?
                    Not quite the same: Five pieces you would be happy to never hear again
                    No - though I do remember that one - the expression "guilty" featured in the title of the one I remembered, and which appears not to have existed!
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Richard Tarleton

                      #25
                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                      ... I hope you are reading them in the 1950s Penguins (bookjackets by my pa... )




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                      I remember those - I may even have owned them once, sadly no more. Inferior replacements.

                      My memories of "Marta" belong elsewhere

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                      • ahinton
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16123

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        Ketèlbey orchestral miniatures - in particular: Sanctuary of the Heart
                        Well, I find no pleasure, guilty or otherwise, in throwing up, so I can't share that one...

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        Bolero
                        Not Chopin's best work by any means but it's OK, I guess.

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        Ben Hur soundtrack
                        Can't say that I feel a Rosza guilt coming on there...

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        1812 Overture
                        It's OK until the bit that's probably the best case to be made out for tightening gun laws

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        Wellington's Victory
                        Don't know the composer Wellington - and in case dyslexia's getting in the way of my understanding here, I couldn't find a work entitled Wellingtons in Victory's catalogue either (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Victory )

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        Beecham's Messiah
                        Didn't know he wrote that.

                        Ah well, we can't all share the same guilty pleasures or not-guilty displeasures, I guess!

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                        • ahinton
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16123

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                          I guess this idea of "guilty pleasures" evokes an older Radio-Three world, where we were supposed (after a guilty little smile of knowingness) to turn our noses up, or stop our ears, to Pop Classics, like.... usual suspects of Bizet, Bruch, Vivaldi, Gounod, Offenbach.... or anything in the Classic fM Top Twenty (Gorecki!) ....a station we would all (or were supposed to) pour scorn upon....

                          My own version would be film music - I can still tear up over the themes from Jurassic Park, Star Wars, ET, Gladiator, Shawshank...
                          If you enjoy a good guilt trip, I dunno, apply it to alcohol or something...IS there any pleasure left to be guilty about...?

                          Sugar?
                          Well, here's one thread in which youy'll expect to find no mention of Roussel's symphonies (apart from the one that I'm making now!)...

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                          • ahinton
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16123

                            #28
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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                            ... I do occasionally find myself listening to music composed after 1750.

                            We all have our different ways whereby to find ourselves, I suppose...

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                            • Serial_Apologist
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37710

                              #29
                              Tubular Bells (minus the Hornpipe ending, which I always thought was a mistake).

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                              • Conchis
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2396

                                #30
                                Puccini was a great operatic composer but I can only listen to his stuff behind closed doors and when I'm on my own.

                                Not 'guilty' because I'm an unashamed and vocal admirer of David Bowie's novelty hit The Laughing Gnome. In fact, I'd say it's probably the best novelty record ever to come out of Britain - it's gloriously sincere in its cheesiness and 'Bromley Dave' comes across as an affable young uncle, so completely does he enter into the childlike fantasy, terrible jokes an' all! Some great musicianship took, from some wonderful Decca staffers. The associated album, David Bowie, is also highly recommendable, though unrepresentative of what Bowie would later become (he's obviously trying to be an English Jacques Brel, so deserves full marks for ambition!). I've always enjoyed the eerie Hammond playing of session hero Derek Boyes (just listen to the fade-out on Gospel According to Tony Day: psychedelic!).

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