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  • silvestrione
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1708

    #16
    Originally posted by symphony1010 View Post
    Rach 3 PC and played like this! https://youtu.be/jC6cY4J5c1I?t=10m46s
    Great to be reminded of that tremendous performance, thanks. I only experienced it on TV, unfortunately.

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    • Jonathan
      Full Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 945

      #17
      Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
      Oh! This is news to me...are the commonly played cadenzas in those two concertos not by Beethoven? (Two for the 4th, both described as 'astoundingly bad' by Tovey. But I like them.)


      I'm rather fond of the cadenza in the Schumann concerto, as played by Lipatti!
      Indeed - of the many recordings of both works I've heard, almost all use the Busoni ones. I have the music for them which I got years ago but that hasn't helped me to like them! I'd like to hear someone use Liszt's cadenza for the 3rd concerto or, being more awkard, Alkan's!
      Best regards,
      Jonathan

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      • silvestrione
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1708

        #18
        I'm pretty sure Brendel, Arrau, Gilels, Pollini and Schnabel use cadenzas by Beethoven. Can you give me an example of someone who uses the Busoni?

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        • Jonathan
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 945

          #19
          The recordings I have in my collection are by Murray Perahia with The Concertgebow Orchestra, conductor: Bernard Haitink and Vladimir Ashkenazy with Chicago Symphony Orchestra, conductor: Sir Georg Solti. Bearing in mind it's been a long while since I've heard these, I am fairly certain that both these recordings use the Busoni cadenzas - leading me to come to the conclusion that I didn't like them!

          A quick search on IMSLP brings up a list of people who have recorded the Busoni 3rd concerto one, here's a link:
          https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concert...2C_Ludwig_van) the 4th is here:


          Hope this helps!!
          Best regards,
          Jonathan

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          • silvestrione
            Full Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1708

            #20
            Thanks!

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            • visualnickmos
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3610

              #21
              Maybe not exactly 'on thread' but I've just acquired Beethoven's violin concerto (Kremer/Marriner, which uses Schnitke's cadenza. And - WOW! I just love it. Superbly skilled juxtoposition of Beethoven and 20th century.

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