Favourite cadenzas

[Barbirollians]

Whether a composer’s own or that of another .

I have been listening this morning to the Brendel/Haitink recording of Beethoven’s First Piano Concerto in which he makes a wonder of the seldom played long cadenza Beethoven wrote and which I heard once in concert and just felt went on for ages but Brendel makes it a thing of wonder.

Probably my favourite of others are Kreisler’s perfect cadenzas for the Beethoven Violin Concerto .

What are You’s and what horrors of cadenzas do you dislike ?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The Beethoven Violin Concerto Kreisler cadenza is definitely top of my list. Hmm - that's 5 nouns in a row -

[Pulcinella]

The Beethoven Violin Concerto Kreisler cadenza is definitely top of my list. Hmm - that's 5 nouns in a row -

But four of them used adjectivally, surely?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

But four of them used adjectivally, surely?

[Pulcinella]

The one in Shostakovich's first violin concerto would certainly be very high up my list.

Too bad that we don't know what Bach intended between the two outer movements of the third Brandenburg (perhaps not quite on topic, being more a case of a missing cadenza, but surely a cadenza of sorts is needed there?).

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Those in the Elgar and Berg Violin Concertos.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Those in the Elgar and Berg Violin Concertos.

I can't help thinking that Elgar would have liked an orchestra of balalaikas to accompany the cadenza in the finale.

[Jonathan]

I'm probably in a minority with this but I just don't like the Busoni cadenzas for the Beethoven's 3rd and 4th piano concertos. They don't sit right with me and almost everyone uses those. Personally, I'd rather soloists played their own or investigated the hundreds of other cadenzas by other composers (Brahms, Dohnanyi, etc.etc.)...

[gradus]

The Beethoven Violin Concerto Kreisler cadenza is definitely top of my list. Hmm - that's 5 nouns in a row -

Is that the one in the Menuhin/Furtwangler recording? if so I entirely agree.

[maestro267]

- Prokofiev - Piano Concerto No. 2, first movt.
- Tishchenko - Violin Concerto No. 2 - 7-minute cadenza bridging the 2nd and 3rd movements.
- Lutoslawski - Cello Concerto - opening 4 minutes or so

[symphony1010]

Rach 3 PC and played like this! https://youtu.be/jC6cY4J5c1I?t=10m46s

[french frank]

Rach 3 PC and played like this! https://youtu.be/jC6cY4J5c1I?t=10m46s

Massive performance at last year's Proms. Any other forumistas there, I wonder? (And welcome,symphony1010)

[Pianorak]

Prokofiev Piano concerto No. 2 Cadenza.

[visualnickmos]

Prokofiev Piano concerto No. 2 Cadenza.

That's made me want to play it right now! When I say 'play' I mean 'play the CD'. I wish I could play the piano!

[silvestrione]

I'm probably in a minority with this but I just don't like the Busoni cadenzas for the Beethoven's 3rd and 4th piano concertos. They don't sit right with me and almost everyone uses those. Personally, I'd rather soloists played their own or investigated the hundreds of other cadenzas by other composers (Brahms, Dohnanyi, etc.etc.)...

Oh! This is news to me...are the commonly played cadenzas in those two concertos not by Beethoven? (Two for the 4th, both described as 'astoundingly bad' by Tovey. But I like them.)


I'm rather fond of the cadenza in the Schumann concerto, as played by Lipatti!