Composers quoting other composers

[MrGongGong]

Massively, but there's another thread about that.

But in case you missed it

In a league of his own IMV

[cloughie]

Not sure why you say "this", Dave - the "donkeys" were what Brahms called those who did think that the two themes were "the same"/"similar". Like you, I find the similarity a bit "stretched". I don't hear how it can be described as a "quotation" - in the way that I understood the Thread title to mean; a deliberate reference within the course of a longer composition to a theme by another which the quoting composer intended the audience to perceive as such.

...and even if he got the ‘big tune’ idea from LvB he had the good taste not to put words therein!

[Richard Barrett]

3. Tippett used the opening of the finale of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony on three occasions in the final song of his Symphony No.3.

That same passage occurs in Bernd Alois Zimmermann's orchestral piece Photoptosis, introducing its second half which is pervaded by quotations, in this case from Wagner, Tchaikovsky, Bach, Scriabin and others, although BAZ's mature music often contains at least as much quoted material as Berio's famous example, especially in his ballet Musique pour les soupers du Roi Ubu whose last movement combines the repeated chord from Stockhausen's Klavierstück IX with Berlioz's Marche au supplice and Wagner's Walkürenritt, no doubt as a dig at Stockhausen.

[gradus]

But in case you missed it

In a league of his own IMV

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[doversoul1]

I can’t remember which came first and which was a quote.

Telemann: TWV 53:F1 / Concerto for 3 violins, strings & b.c. in F major

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xGoIx2BK-o

Handel - The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TGKJ9MgCOQ

Bach quoting* Vivaldi in one of his concertos (and Handel quoting himself left, right, and centre).

*does it count an a quote or is it something else?

[Stanfordian]

But in case you missed it

In a league of his own IMV

I can't hear the Bolero in the ALW!

[Stanfordian]

I think there is a possibility that John Adams quotes a snippet or two of Beethoven in his Absolute Jest.

He certainly does and much more, quite deliberately so! Adams explains all the quotations. I think 'Absolute Jest' is a super work!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I can't hear the Bolero in the ALW!

Memory, from Cats.

[richardfinegold]

RVW quotes Henry VIII in Greensleeves Fantasia and Tallis in Tallis in Fantasia on a Theme Of...
Hindemith quotes Weber in Symphonic Metamorphosis on Themes Of Carl Maria Von Weber....

[Nick Armstrong]

RVW quotes Henry VIII in Greensleeves Fantasia and Tallis in Tallis in Fantasia on a Theme Of...
Hindemith quotes Weber in Symphonic Metamorphosis on Themes Of Carl Maria Von Weber....

No sh*t, Sherlock!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

*does it count an a quote or is it something else?

A "transcription" of a whole work is definitely "something else". (In the same way that if someone translates a novel into a language different from the original, that's not a "quotation".)

[richardfinegold]

No sh*t, Sherlock!

I always go after low lying fruit

[BBMmk2]

Stravinsky Petrushka, reminds me of that tune, folk tune. I know it as The Jingling Jangling Scarecrow, A’s does. Beethoven PC 1.

[Beef Oven!]

I always go after low lying fruit

That's really lazy - can't you just go for the low hanging ones before they fall?

[cloughie]

Stravinsky Petrushka, reminds me of that tune, folk tune. I know it as The Jingling Jangling Scarecrow, A’s does. Beethoven PC 1.

Petrouchka has a bit of the ‘Grand Old Duke of York’ and Britten’s Simple Symphony playful pizzicato has probably influenced the Archer’s theme ‘Barwick Green’.